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Thing you NEED to know before choosing a Wolf Hybrid as your Pup!!!!

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the WolfDog is one of the most misunderstood animals in existence today. A WolfDog is defined as a dog with recent wolf ancestry, usually one of the Northern/Spitz or Shepherd breeds.

A High Content WolfDog is is one with a parent or grandparent that is a Wolf. A Low Content WolfDog is is one with wolf ancestry further back in the line.

Due to increasing popularity and much misinformation these animals are suffering and falling through the cracks because they are special needs animals. The high level of commitment, time, money and special attention nessecary to responsibly own a WolfDog is is quite honestly beyond most people. A WolfDog is likely to be a sixteen plus year commitment involving special licensing in some places, special enclosure requirements, innate knowledge of wolf behavior, the ability to deal with the fear that surrounds these creatures and much much more.

Section One: What makes a WolfDog?

When learning about WolfDogs one will run into claims that:

"WolfDogs are dangerous. They should not ever be pets."
"WolfDogs are just like any other dog. Sweet as can be."

In reality the truth is that BOTH claims can be true. Genetic variation is a difficult thing to predict.
No matter what anyone tells you..a Wolf does not behave like a Dog. Wolves have had millenia of natural selection behind them telling their instincts that humans are not to be trusted, that humans must be feared and run from. A full Wolf will not often readily approach any human. If a human approaches a full blooded adult Wolf, that animal will most likely either

A. Run Away.
B. Go on the defensive.

These behaviors are ingrained. They can be modified somewhat through removing a wolf pup from its mother at birth and carefully handraising it. Even this is no guarantee. Instinct is a powerful force in the mind of an animal and is based in genetics. Wolves are typically very intelligent and sensitive animals.

A Dog on the other hand has had centuries of selective breeding telling their instincts that humans are givers of food, warmth and comfort. A full blooded Dog will more often than not readily and happily approach and interact with humans.

There are physical differences as well. A Wolf's head is proportionally larger in relation to its body than a Dog's. Wolf ears are smaller than a dog's, always stand erect and have a layer of dense fur. Dog ear size and carriage vary and lack the dense fur of the Wolf. Another difference is to be found in Black animals. A Black Wolf's coat may fade significantly with age to grey on larger proportions of the body. This is not typical of Black Dogs. Female Wolves only have one estrus period a year and a Male Wolf is only fertile when the female is. Female dogs have two and sometimes more cycles and males are consistenly fertile.


What this means is that when you cross a Wolf with a Dog you are going to get a random selection of wildly different physical and mental characteristics, ranging from exactly like a Wolf to exactly like a Dog or somewhere in between.

Content is a general guideline. The more Wolf ancestry in an animals background the more likely it is to be Wolf like. And Wolves make terrible, dangerous pets. The more Dog ancestry in an animals background the more likely it is to be Dog like. Dogs make wonderful pets....but this general guidline is no guarantee. You can have low content Hybrids who appear Dog like and yet behave exactly as a Wolf would. You can have a high content Hybrid that looks exactly like a Wolf and behaves just like a dog. Or infinite variations on this theme.


Stay tuned for Section Two: Buyer Beware!!!!!!!
 
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Section Two: Buyer Beware!!!!!!

The purchase of a WolfDog pup is tricky tricky business. There are many who claim to breed Hybrids who misrepresent content levels in their animals. This misrepresentation makes purchasing a Hybrid dangerous because it gives owners a false sense of their own experience with these animals.

Misrepresentation happens for several reasons. Here are two of the biggest.

*economics. The higher the content content claimed, the more a breeder can charge for a pup.
*ego. The high content Hybrids are more eagerly sought to satisfy romantic notions of owning one's own Wolf.

This is very dangerous. Why? Because one may purchase a hybrid believing it to be high content when in reality there is little to no Wolf content in the animal at all. They get a wonderful family pet and a false sense of experience. They then pass the word around that high content WolfDogs are always wonderful pets. Someone may hear this and go out and get their hands on an actual high content hybrid whose behavior and characteristics lean more towards the Wolf ancestry and are unprepared to deal with the difficulties that arise from owning a more Wolf like animal.


The definitive two things to look for in a breeder of WolfDogs are as follows:

Pups are taken from their Mother at 14 days of age and bottle fed and handraised to promote socialization with humans.

Pups are carefully introduced and socialized with other canines. These are social animals and if raised completely away from other canines develop serious behavioral problems later in life.

It is up to you to determine if a breeder has struck the correct balance between these two points.

Stay tuned for Section Three: How to Responsibly Keep WolfDogs.
 
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#4 ·
I wish they weren't allowed to breed and sell such dogs - at least not without a specialists' license that required them to sell only to approved homes, fully checked out by some organization that has a clue... sigh...
 
#6 ·
Okey doke... I just hate it because MOST people don't know how to handle, train, exercise, etc., a "wolf dog"/hybrid so that they have an awesome quality of life. Most people who own huskies don't exercise them enough, let alone wolf hybrids :(

There are always exceptions, of course, so please don't be insulted anyone :)
 
#20 ·
haha i wasnt so much laughing at you not knowing, more so the boys that just kept going on and on and especially Rbark who, I believe, made up his own...
 
#16 ·
Zim, I believe most wolf hybrids that are being purchased really aren't hybrids. A lot of people just say they are and sell them as them to get more profit.

I live in Alaska where wolves are everywhere, and their are barely no wolf hybrids up here, and ones sold in the newspaper are obviously just husky mixes.

Just because a dog looks like a wolf, a lot of people assume they may have wolf in them, which isn't true.
 
#18 ·
The reason you don't see any more true hybrids in alaska where there are more wolves is because they don't freely interbreed. A wolf in the wild will VERY rarely mate with a dog. They have to be put in captivity with the dog under very special circumstances.

It's true, most are not true hybrids, but some are. And for the safety of the owners, they need to treat the situation like they are getting the real deal.
 
#17 ·
Section Three: How to Responsibly Keep WolfDogs.

The first order of business in Responsible Ownership of WolfDogs is to determine if it is legal to own them at all in your area. If it is not and you still desire a Wolfdog.....move. To illegally own such an animal is generally a death sentence for your Pet and heavy fines and possible jailtime for you if caught.
Many areas have specific lisencing and land requirements for WolfDog ownership. Information on this can generally be found in your area's Animal Control Ordinances.
The second order of business in Responsible Ownership of WolfDogs is to familiarize yourself in depth with Wolf and Hybrid Behavior and Care. Some excellent resource materials include:

Wolves
* http://www.albany.edu/~knee/wolf.html
* http://grandin.com/references/genetics.html
* The World of the Wolf by Candace Savage

WolfDogs
*Living With WolfDogs: An Everyday Guide to Lifetime Companionship by Nicole Wilde
*WolfDogs A-Z: Behavior, Training and More by Nicole Wilde
* http://www.inetdesign.com/wolfdunn/

(in the interest of conserving space, I will leave it at that but recommend that the prospective owner follow through with any and all further resources contained within.)


the third order of business in Responsible Ownership of WolfDogs is to build a suitable enclosure.

*It is recommended that WolfDogs be housed in an enclosure which is made from 8 ft. or higher 11 guage chain link fencing with overhangs and underground dig guards and a minimum of 1600 sq. ft. of floor space.
*It is recommended that you provide your WolfDog with the companionship of either another WolfDog or canine. These are social animals and do not thrive alone.
*It is recommended that you provide Your WolfDogs with adequate mental stimulation in the form of toys, raised platforms for lounging, perhaps a kiddie pool etc etc...these are extremely intelligent animals who will attempt escape if not provided adequate stimulation.

The fourth order of business in Responsible Ownership of WolfDogs is to know their specialized health needs.

*They generally do not thrive on processed foods and more often than not require a diet of the prey model variety complete with meat, bones and fur.
*It is recommended that you locate a veterinarian familiar with the Care of Wolves and Hybrids. They have specialized health concerns that require knowledgeable attention. Rabies Vaccinations are not accepted as viable for Wolves and WolfDogs.


Stay Tuned for Section Four: Day to Day Concerns


Ps. Quit screwing around on my thread you dopes!!! Someone ought to post all this crap so people know what the heck they are thinking about getting into.
 
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*It is recommended that WolfDogs be housed in an enclosure which is made from 8 ft. or higher 11 guage chain link fencing with overhangs and underground dig guards and a minimum of 1600 sq. ft. of floor space.

Zim all good stuff with one exception. 11gage fencing I would definitely go to 9gage as I have had a couple dogs go through the 11gage.
 
#35 · (Edited)
For a securer chainlink fence I 2nd that. We use 9 gage and it still can't stand up to my dogs if they really want. I think this type of fence is good for many dogs though (like with dig proofing and jump guard). I prefer a wood fence to chainlink and a metal fence over wood.

I didn't realize that the norm since I know someone who owns hybrids (and dogs too). They didn't have any special confinement. Anyway one of the old ones has passed away and they now have a youngster added (I really want to meet him, hopefully I will).

Some hybrids are great in the right hands. They are fine to take in public, they are good "pets", therapy dogs, pass temperament test and have a good nature about them. Others are skittish, pushing, high prey instincts and very mishandled.

I know breeding is a concern too, but also luck of the draw. I guess it is like looking into a dog breed, expect the "worse" and if you don't have to deal with it great. I wouldn't recommend them to most people because of the possibilities. Especially with people breeding them without thought, just to make $. Ugh!

The Saarloos Wolfhond has had some success in being guide dogs. I think many of the Czechoslovakian Wolf Dog breeders have come to great success breeding. The have dogs with the looks of the wolf with less of the wolf temperament or many with the dog like temperament (with some wolf characteristics). Although there is still no guarantee on how a dog will act, might act very dog like and might act much more like a wolf. That is the main thing for me, you can't always have predictability in temperament. Many people are not at all capable of handling a wolf, so they are no more capable of handling a hybrid who acts like a wolf and has a wolf temperament. Especially if they are expecting "he's a hybrid so he will act like a dog and be pretty like a wolf" :eek:
 
#27 · (Edited)
It was not meant to correct you as it's great thread. Just a stronger fence program as I am so used to Murphy's Law striking, I am not trying to protect anybody who buys these hybrids to stroke their wolf ownership egos. I could care less about them it's their neighbors I worry about.

Just read about the dogs chewing through the 9ga. I've never had one here but I do not doubt it as a determined dog is an unstoppable force.
 
#31 · (Edited)
Shaina

I didn't nessecarily think that:)...I just want it made crystal clear that I do not support the breeding of hybrids...But since people are going to do what they are going to do anyway I figure they should have info on how to do it as responsibly as possible.

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Section Four: Day to Day Concerns


For the first part of this section I will let Dr. Erich Klinghammer, the Director of Wolf Park do the talking...


*From the point of view of safety for the general public, as well as the owners, social aggression in hybrids tends to be less of a problem than one would think. An animal may challenge and even bite an owner or familiar person, but the consequences are rarely serious. Predatory behavior is another matter. A socially friendly animal - and pet wolves and wolf x dog hybrids are generally friendly if properly socialized to humans - may nevertheless launch a predatory attack under certain circumstances. If a person runs away, trips or falls, struggles, cries or screams, such behavior is similar to that of prey, and is very likely to result in a predatory attack. Since children are small, they are less intimidating to a wolf or hybrid, and the chance of an attack is increased. Couple this with the propensity - primarily of small boys - to tease such animals if they are behind a fence or on a chain, and the stage is set for disaster. Many children have been attacked. The lucky ones escaped with injuries. Many have died. All these deaths were avoidable. While it is true that the same comments apply to many dogs - who are considered to be the same species - the probability that a pet wolf or hybrid will attack a child is much greater.
*****Whenever such an attack occurs, it is often national news. A concerned public cries out for laws to outlaw such animals, while the hybrid owners rise up to defend the keeping of these animals - pointing out how friendly they are. Parents are accused of poor supervision - not of the animals, but of the children who are the victims of such attacks. In many instances the owners have been warned beforehand, but such warnings are usually dismissed or ignored. When a child is dead or disfigured for life, one hears: "Gee, I am sorry; I did not know; the animal has never done that before; it is so friendly; it loves children; it is afraid of people; etc." The list of excuses is endless.
Source http://www.wolfpark.org/wolfdogs/editorial.html

The prospective Hybrid owner should cement these words in their mind. Period.

A note on training your Hybrid.

Due to the sensitive intelligent nature of many Hybrids that can be above and beyond that of a dog.. it is recommended that training be as positive reinforcement based as possible. A full Wolf will not respond well to aversives as a full Wolf is NOT a domesticated creature...hybrids should be handled similar to wolves as they are likely to display more Wolf temperment than Dog Temperment.


Stay tuned for Section Five: My Thoughts as a former Hybrid Caretaker.
 
#34 ·
I had a GSD Malamute mix that people thought was a hybrid. On the other hand my sister had a definite wolf hybrid that they bought as a malamute mix but found out later that it was probably about 85 or so percent wolf. A friend of theirs who's an expert in wolves advised them and CJ lived for 7 years but as she got older, the wolf instincts got stonger and stronger and she finally had to be put down. She never attacked or bit any people, but she became more and more aggressively viscious around dogs and other animals.
 
#36 ·
I lived with a wolf hybrid (named Bjorne) for about a year . . .very strange, and often times scary experiences. He was huge, and for whatever reason, he took to me; really, really liked me. Would stand on his hind legs to greet me when I got home from work, and place his jaws over my face, all the while making moaning groaning sounds, and breathing me in. I had to be VERY careful with my emotions when I was upset with my SO, because Bjorne would stalk him, and once attacked him, drawing blood.

Bjorne was beautiful, but I would never want one. Too risky.
 
#38 ·
I would never go out of my way to own a wolfdog/wolf hybrid/etc. A wolf is a wild animal and I do not wish to promote having one as a pet. The more you promote it, the more people seek it and try to get one.
My uncle had a wolf hybrid. A very sweet dog to his family but he was territorial and hated when people he didn't know came to the house. If there was a lot of noise such as a party or people just joking around and laughing, he would get terribly upset thinking people were attacking his family. Endearing as it sounds, it was not a good thing. I loved the dog but I trusted him about as far as I could throw him. (haha, not literally).

That is not to say I would ever be mean to one or that it the future I would never adopt one from a shelter (ya never know what you get your hands on in such places as a dogs history is unknown. You could very well end up with one and not even know it) however I would never seek to have one. I just do not find it fair and in all honesty, believe it should be illegal.

I think this forum does very well to show people that wolf dogs are not a good idea. Dogs in general are hard enough work (haha), a wolf is a whole other story!
 
#39 · (Edited)
Great information here!!! I agree with everything the OP stated... thank you for posting this.

My foster Yuki was a wolfdog, low-content (about 25%), but he was still the most intense dog I have ever met. I still think it's amazing that such a small amount of wolf ancestry can give a dog such unique characteristics, both physically and mentally; I know that unless I someday come across a very special, "exception-to-the-rule" wolfdog, I would never be prepared to own a higher-content animal. I knew what I was getting into when I offered to foster him, but nonetheless, he was very challenging. He was not a "mislabeled" hybrid, either - I was fostering him for a national wolfdog rescue network.

Not all low-contents are as challenging as he was, however; he came from a terrible man who abused and neglected him. But, the potential is there in any wolfdog (or dog for that matter)... one considering a wolfdog should expect normal "dog" behaviors to be amplified, reactions and reaction times to be intensified, and body language to be clearer and often, more to-the-point. This can make them intimidating and difficult to handle for most people. Calmness and the ability to think through a stressful situation was key for me when dealing with Yuki.

I also want to say that Yuki was also the most rewarding and incredible animal I have ever worked with, despite the issues I worked on with him. I still get chills and goosebumps when I think of some of the memories I have locked away from my short time with him. He was incredibly sensitive, intelligent, and was able to communicate with me more effectively than any other dog I have known.

I don't think ownership of wolfdogs should be illegal, because there are many, many sweet ones out there who desperately need rescue, and if they are banned there isn't anywhere for them to go. I think the comparison with Pits is a good one - the majority of breeders out there are completely irresponsible, with no regard to the animals' health, stability, or temperament. Like hybrids, Pits are often euthanized in shelters with no regards to their individual temperaments, or outlawed from adoption due to BSL. I think this is a shame. Adequate containment laws, and dangerous dog laws, should be in place to protect the public, without resorting to BSL (but that is another issue altogether).

They are a special "breed" that requires a different level of committment and understanding than other dogs, and for the right person, they can be a good match; but just like any other dog, the majority of people who acquire them are not prepared to accept their "quirks" or special needs.

I would recommend any prospective owner to buy Nicole Wilde's two books on wolfdogs - "Wolfdogs A - Z" and "Living with Wolfdogs". Not only are they excellent for wolfdog owners, but I think they are absolutely terrific for Northern breed owners too! Oh, and as an aside, I think anyone considering a wolfdog should have some experience with Northern breeds or other high-energy, high-prey breeds first.
 
#41 · (Edited)
That is no problem at all! I don't mind you asking.

EDIT: I posted his whole story here, then thought better of that and moved it to the Memorial forum. In short, I will say it was a medical reason that was related to a behavioral issue he was dealing with.

You can read about it on Yuki's memorial thread... I just don't want to clog up this educational thread with my personal story. :)

By the way, if anyone on this forum is considering a wolfdog and has questions, PLEASE do not hesitate to PM me. I'm sure the OP would say the same. I'd be happy to share the knowledge I do have, and point you to other people and resources who will give you an honest look at what it is like to live with these animals.

And one more thing... PLEASE, please consider rescue before you go out and buy that "wolfdog" pup from a breeder. These animals are in a crisis here in the US due to irresponsible breeders and uneducated owners, and many are dumped and pawned off on shelters, with nowhere for them to go.

First off, many breeders who claim to have wolfdogs, are actually breeding Husky and Malamute mixes. Or, the percentages are grossly overstated, leading to misinformation and the belief that your dog has more wolf than it really does. This causes problems later, when you go to buy a 2nd one somewhere else - and this one is actually the real McCoy!

With a rescue, you will know exactly what you are getting in terms of temperament and looks, versus a young, unknown pup that can run the gamut and has not reached maturity. In addition, a wolfdog rescue network will thoroughly grill you prior to adoption and make sure you are qualified to take on that particular animal. And I want to say that the support network is wonderful; they will help you through any snafus and be there for you throughout the process. I can't say the same for many breeders.
 
#42 ·
I've been reading all the info and wolf hybrid experiences and what I gather is that it is possible to keep wolfs as pets provided you done your recearch on them and know how dangerous they are. I guess my perants shouldn't have took on our wolf a few years back because at the time I had younger brothers and our wolf was so huge she could injure them by jumping on them in play. Luckily she did nothing of that sought.
Thanks Zim for all the wolf hybrid info. Please go on. And do you still have your wolf hybrid? I'd really like to see pics of him/her.