Today we lost our precious little Geronimo, our GS puppy to parvo. I had never been around Parvo. We had been lucky until now. So when our little boy got it I didn't know much about it. Last night I found a company that has a remedy for Parvo. It also helps the dog from getting it too. The name is Amber Technologies. The name of the product is Parvaid. They have a lot of testimonials where Parvaid saved lives of dogs and puppies from Parvo. Parvaid is all natural. It is all herbs. It is expensive, but so are vet bills. And usually vets don't save the animal. They have a lot of other products for animals too. Their e-mail is www.ambertech.com. They told me there was 4 stores in my town that sold Parvaid. So bought some today. I got it too late to help our little boy. But I want everybody to know about this company and Parvaid. Geronimo you are our sweet little boy. We love you and miss you terribly. D
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I am so sorry for your loss... My heart goes out to you and your family....As the others have said there is a vaccine to prevent Parvo and once the dog has been infected there are some treatments...Please don't fall for advertisers trying to sell you a hocus pokus cures....Go to this link and it will tell you all about it..http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm
Again Im so sorry for your loss....
Although parvaid is mentioned just be carefull some of these things have not been tested...)
Again Im so sorry for your loss....
Although parvaid is mentioned just be carefull some of these things have not been tested...)
I am sorry to hear about your pup but to encourage people to treat parvo with herbs is not sound.....
Tamiflu works wonders for many pups with parvo...... and a vaccination is an absolute necessity....
herbs not so much
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Tamiflu works wonders for many pups with parvo...... and a vaccination is an absolute necessity....
herbs not so much
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Please do a search at the top of the page for "parvo" and you will find a few threads describing the process for disinfecting your house and property. It is pretty specific, and necessary.
And please don't bring another puppy into the household for at least a year. The parvo virus is very hardy and can live in surfaces and soil for many years, but usually safe after one year.
Please do a search at the top of the page for "parvo" and you will find a few threads describing the process for disinfecting your house and property. It is pretty specific, and necessary.
And please don't bring another puppy into the household for at least a year. The parvo virus is very hardy and can live in surfaces and soil for many years, but usually safe after one year.
I am not sure how my sister's Great Pyr was treated, but she was infected when my sister got her. In fact, her co-worker didn't want to deal with the illness and was going to shoot her. She is 8 years old now!! I DO know, though, that the vet told her that the over the counter stuff will not help an infected dog. The best thing is the vaccine before they even get sick. Once a pup has it, vet care is really the only way to go, IMHO!
I am not encouraging anyone to use Parvaid. I told about it so people can read about it themselves and make their own decisions. there are 4 pet shops in our town that sells Parvaid and some of the other products that Amber Technologies make. Our town does go more towards the more natural remedies for dogs and cats. We have about 5 homeopathic/ holistic vets in this area. They are all so busy that you can hardly get in to see them. I have used used natural/herbal remedies for my dogs and cats for years. And had no problems with them and they have either helped or cured the problem. But I am NOT incouraging anybody to use them too. And as far as the USDA. They sure have kept our food supply safe for us haven't they? Also the drugs that they allow on the market is so safe and there are no side affects or deaths from all of them are there? As for me I will take my chances on herbs and natural remedies to help me and my fur kids. We won't be living on prescriptions. For another comparison, the FDA has made pet food companies make nutritious and safe foods for our pets too, havent they? OH! There is no Parvo vaccine. The Parvo shot is the live parvo virus that you are injecting in your pets, not a vaccine, my vet told me. Our puppy that died from Parvo already had it when we got him. He was 7 wks old. We gave him the Parvo shot the same day we got him. So that made him worse. You are not supposed to give a Parvo shot to a dog or puppy that has Parvo because it is the live virus you are giving to it. We didn't know he had Parvo when we got him. He looked healthy and had no symptoms of Parvo.
There's definately a parvo vaccine. Yes, it's a live vaccine. Yes, it will make a dog who is already infected ill. But it's definately a vaccine.
Taking chances on herbs and natural remedies is not humane or responsible ownership. There's a very, very good reason that distemper and parvo vaccines are so widely used. It's because the diseases have a VERY high mortality rate without them. Herbs and natural remedies have been around a long time. But there are many, many cases where drugs are IMMENSELY better and more successful at treating illness.
Taking chances on herbs and natural remedies is not humane or responsible ownership. There's a very, very good reason that distemper and parvo vaccines are so widely used. It's because the diseases have a VERY high mortality rate without them. Herbs and natural remedies have been around a long time. But there are many, many cases where drugs are IMMENSELY better and more successful at treating illness.
FDA approved doesn't always mean much. There is a lot of "scam" when it comes to the FDA but thats a whole other subject.
I'm very sorry for your loss. It is tough to loose a dog.
However there are proven, working remedies for parvo. Parvaid might be good and work, don't know. I've treated parvo fine with antibiotics and lactated ringers, I've used other supplements after the fact to help the body overcome and recover from it. If you don't wish to use antibiotics that is your choice. Maybe others might not and its no problem to share this herbal treatment. I'm just saying that the other ways are also proven so you shouldn't down them. I don't know how fair it is to say vets usually don't save the dog either, a lot still depends on the owner. When did they take the dog in? Lots of people wait until the dog is too far gone to do a vet visit. Vets are not miracle workers. You have just as good of chance treating it yourself as a vet. (with traditional treatments, I'm not sure about parvaid so I won't endorse it) That would eliminate the high vet bills and them loosing your dog.
Yeah the vaccine is a modified live virus. What did you think vaccines were? That is how the body produces anti bodies to fight it off. Vaccines are either killed or live, either way they are called vaccines.
I'm curious where you got a 7wk old parvo infected pup. One that you had to vaccinate as well. Whoever had this dog before was very much responsible for the condition.
LOL maybe you should read their post again. Because apparently you didn't read correctly.
I'm very sorry for your loss. It is tough to loose a dog.
However there are proven, working remedies for parvo. Parvaid might be good and work, don't know. I've treated parvo fine with antibiotics and lactated ringers, I've used other supplements after the fact to help the body overcome and recover from it. If you don't wish to use antibiotics that is your choice. Maybe others might not and its no problem to share this herbal treatment. I'm just saying that the other ways are also proven so you shouldn't down them. I don't know how fair it is to say vets usually don't save the dog either, a lot still depends on the owner. When did they take the dog in? Lots of people wait until the dog is too far gone to do a vet visit. Vets are not miracle workers. You have just as good of chance treating it yourself as a vet. (with traditional treatments, I'm not sure about parvaid so I won't endorse it) That would eliminate the high vet bills and them loosing your dog.
Yeah the vaccine is a modified live virus. What did you think vaccines were? That is how the body produces anti bodies to fight it off. Vaccines are either killed or live, either way they are called vaccines.
I'm curious where you got a 7wk old parvo infected pup. One that you had to vaccinate as well. Whoever had this dog before was very much responsible for the condition.
LOL maybe you should read their post again. Because apparently you didn't read correctly. I am so sorry for your loss... My heart goes out to you and your family....As the others have said there is a vaccine to prevent Parvo and once the dog has been infected there are some treatments...Please don't fall for advertisers trying to sell you a hocus pokus cures....Go to this link and it will tell you all about it..http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm
Again Im so sorry for your loss....
Parvo is death. My wife and I lost a whole litter of Basset puppies to parvo, even after vaccination. The only tried and true method I have seen is to pour electrolyte solution through the animal for days straight. Don't sleep. Keep the animal clean, and sit through the entire process.
Keep the animal warm and continuously pour fluids through it. Thats that most important part. Its usually the dehydration that kills the animal, so keep working it. Of the litter that caught, we lost 60%, so it can be devestating, especially if its not caught early.
Vaccination is the best though. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. One thing to keep in mind however, is that with puppies the vaccination can actually cause the disease. Also puppies that are vaccinated before 4 months old are still vulnerable.
Just some tips that may help, thanks zac.
Keep the animal warm and continuously pour fluids through it. Thats that most important part. Its usually the dehydration that kills the animal, so keep working it. Of the litter that caught, we lost 60%, so it can be devestating, especially if its not caught early.
Vaccination is the best though. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. One thing to keep in mind however, is that with puppies the vaccination can actually cause the disease. Also puppies that are vaccinated before 4 months old are still vulnerable.
Just some tips that may help, thanks zac.
I'm not saying anything about the shots. i do give my dogs and and cats shots. I believe in the shots. we gave our puppy a shot the day we brought him home. But he had Parvo before we got him. And the shots are not a vaccine as our vets told us.
Triax, all I said is that it was mentioned, NOTHING ELSE. You are the one who said herbs and natural remedies are hocus pocus.
We got our puppy from a friend of a friend. They were going to give the puppy the shot. But we told them that we would do it. We took our puppy in the day that he became lethargic and was running a fever. He had white milk colored stools and was vomiting. Because we use the BARF diet the vet suspected Salmonella. But the vet should have given him a Parvo test.to rule out Parvo. she didn't. I know it might not have done any good. But she still should have done a Parvo test. She gave us meds for Salmonella and told us to bring him back if he got worse. That was a Friday. By Sunday 3AM he had a bloody stool. We rushed him in. the vet on Emergency took a 10 minute Parvo test and it was positive. If the first vet had taken the test. he might have been saved. He suffered so much. I didn't mean that vets don't save animals with Parvo. i meant that I know a lot of Parvo patients die, because it is such a bad disese.
Triax, all I said is that it was mentioned, NOTHING ELSE. You are the one who said herbs and natural remedies are hocus pocus.
We got our puppy from a friend of a friend. They were going to give the puppy the shot. But we told them that we would do it. We took our puppy in the day that he became lethargic and was running a fever. He had white milk colored stools and was vomiting. Because we use the BARF diet the vet suspected Salmonella. But the vet should have given him a Parvo test.to rule out Parvo. she didn't. I know it might not have done any good. But she still should have done a Parvo test. She gave us meds for Salmonella and told us to bring him back if he got worse. That was a Friday. By Sunday 3AM he had a bloody stool. We rushed him in. the vet on Emergency took a 10 minute Parvo test and it was positive. If the first vet had taken the test. he might have been saved. He suffered so much. I didn't mean that vets don't save animals with Parvo. i meant that I know a lot of Parvo patients die, because it is such a bad disese.
The vaccine for parvo prevents parvo
it is not a cure for parvo if that is what your vet said then he is right, there is no one stop shopping remedy for parvo.... the vaccine however does prevent a dog from getting the disease
as for homeopathic remedies..... I use a homeopathic vet and while herbs may enhance and help treatment for a disease such as parvo I would not use an herbal only route....
Now you say you weren't encouraging people to go and just use Parvaid or whatever it is called..... yet ALL of the people who read your post surmised the same thing.... so I suggest that if that is not what you meant then you needed to clarify your post better.
My puppies are vaccinated for parvo at 9 weeks and again at 15-16 weeks with a year booster after that..... I use Fort Dodge PUppy distemper/parvo vaccine.... go look it up..... and if your vet doesn't know about it.... then its time to find a new vet....
as far as treatment
Tamiflu has worked wonders and has saved many puppies if they get treated with it in time..... it is an anti viral.....
As far as homeopathy.... it has its place..... I use it for my own dogs..... but I would not encourage a puppy with a disease as serious as parvo to go that route..... and if they wanted to add that then only as a support for traditional veterinary care.
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it is not a cure for parvo if that is what your vet said then he is right, there is no one stop shopping remedy for parvo.... the vaccine however does prevent a dog from getting the disease
as for homeopathic remedies..... I use a homeopathic vet and while herbs may enhance and help treatment for a disease such as parvo I would not use an herbal only route....
Now you say you weren't encouraging people to go and just use Parvaid or whatever it is called..... yet ALL of the people who read your post surmised the same thing.... so I suggest that if that is not what you meant then you needed to clarify your post better.
My puppies are vaccinated for parvo at 9 weeks and again at 15-16 weeks with a year booster after that..... I use Fort Dodge PUppy distemper/parvo vaccine.... go look it up..... and if your vet doesn't know about it.... then its time to find a new vet....
as far as treatment
Tamiflu has worked wonders and has saved many puppies if they get treated with it in time..... it is an anti viral.....
As far as homeopathy.... it has its place..... I use it for my own dogs..... but I would not encourage a puppy with a disease as serious as parvo to go that route..... and if they wanted to add that then only as a support for traditional veterinary care.
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Alost two years ago, my Tasha girl broke her chain in the back yard and thought she would go for a walk by herself. She was headed for my mom's house because she had been there before, but on the way there my mom's neighbors who know Tasha called the police for a stray dog and they came and picked her up and took her to the animal clinic where I had to pick her up. A couple days later to a week later her stool became white and then real bloody. She didn't want to move. So I rushed her to my vet (not the one I had to pick her up from) and she treated her and she was there for about 3 or 4 days and I got to bring her home. She was on antibiotics and when she got well she had the vaccine. I'm glad that I took her to the vet instead of just giving up. I believe that she got the virus when she got loose that day, whether in the people's yard or at the animal clinic she went to. But she is very happy, very healthy, very spoiled, and very my girlie girl, and I wouldn't trade her for the world!!
I'm so glad for you, that you saved your dog. I wish I could have saved my puppy too. Enjoy your fur kid. D
When I made my post about Parvo. I didn't say Cure for Parvo. I said help with Parvo. Just because i do believe in herbal and natural remedies, does not mean i don't use the Parvo shot for my babies. They are too precious to me to not use what has been working for years. i don't know where everybody got the idea that I don't get the shots for my dogs/puppies. Geronimo got the combined Parvo/distemper (4 or 5 in 1 ) shot the day we brought him home to be in our family. but he already had Parvo. We didn't know that. I have never had Parvo with any of our dogs before we Got Geronimo. Because we didn't know about it, he suffered. But I'm educating myself about it. All we found about parvo was from the vets that had our puppy in their care. Since his death I've found out quite a bit. But will research it more. You people can say I don't take care of my precious fur kids, but I know better. They are on the Barf diet, that I have used for over 10 yrs. But I also cook for them. i bake snacks for them. I also make dried meat snacks for them. I have used herbs and home remedies for minor problems . But i would never stop giving them their shots. I love them too much. I want to thank all of you for jumping to conclusions. i want to thank you for being such nice people. D:
When I made my post about Parvo. I didn't say Cure for Parvo. I said help with Parvo. Just because i do believe in herbal and natural remedies, does not mean i don't use the Parvo shot for my babies. They are too precious to me to not use what has been working for years. i don't know where everybody got the idea that I don't get the shots for my dogs/puppies. Geronimo got the combined Parvo/distemper (4 or 5 in 1 ) shot the day we brought him home to be in our family. but he already had Parvo. We didn't know that. I have never had Parvo with any of our dogs before we Got Geronimo. Because we didn't know about it, he suffered. But I'm educating myself about it. All we found about parvo was from the vets that had our puppy in their care. Since his death I've found out quite a bit. But will research it more. You people can say I don't take care of my precious fur kids, but I know better. They are on the Barf diet, that I have used for over 10 yrs. But I also cook for them. i bake snacks for them. I also make dried meat snacks for them. I have used herbs and home remedies for minor problems . But i would never stop giving them their shots. I love them too much. I want to thank all of you for jumping to conclusions. i want to thank you for being such nice people. D:
I think everyone has their own opinions on shots, food and meds for their dogs.
I have never given my dogs ANY shots for anything for the last 20 yrs. Not even rabies after reading about all the horrible side effects. The results are strong healthy immune systems that can fight off parvo or anything thrown their way. I haven't had a vet bill since I quit believing in shots. My pups are also weaned on raw and this is the way I've been feeding for years. I have used herbal a few times, but so far my bank account is a bit healthier without the vet bills.
I say whatever works for you, go with it.
I have never given my dogs ANY shots for anything for the last 20 yrs. Not even rabies after reading about all the horrible side effects. The results are strong healthy immune systems that can fight off parvo or anything thrown their way. I haven't had a vet bill since I quit believing in shots. My pups are also weaned on raw and this is the way I've been feeding for years. I have used herbal a few times, but so far my bank account is a bit healthier without the vet bills.
I say whatever works for you, go with it.
Be careful what you say here. You will be called a person that doesn't take care of your fur kids. I don't give as many shots as I used to. But I do give the 3 puppy shots and the 1 yr. I don't give as many as the vets want people to. i think it breaks their immunity down. I'm afraid not to give the puppy shots though. But I am not putting you down. I used to have a homeopathc vet. She was fantastic. She did not give as many shots as I do now. but she passed away from cancer. She alway gave the puppies a natural remedy under their tongues, to help counteract bad effects of the shots. I give my own shots because it is $45.00 for an office call to the vet. I used to go to a shot clinic, but they moved out on the other side of town. Somebody on this forum asked me if the vets did a Parvo test before giving shots. I don't know because I didn't get shots at the vets. i know what you mean about having more money, that the vets aren't getting. Our puppy Geronimo's bill will cost us a fortune, for us. But we would do it again. D
Because I need to board my dogs, and the licensing laws are pretty strict in this town, I'm forced into vaccinating more often than I would prefer. But, if it were entirely up to me, I would definitely vaccinate puppies for Distemper and Parvo, full series. And a booster a year later. I'm confident that this is enough to provide immunity for the dog's life. But I would not be comfortable not vaccinating at all......that's how it was when my mom was a kid, and more than half the puppies from any given litter died of Distemper. Obviously the vaccines do some good, and, since there is a risk either way, I would choose the vaccine risk over the disease risk. I would vaccinate for rabies at 6 months, again a year later, and then every 5 years. Rabies scares me, so that is not a risk I am willing to take at all. I DO NOT agree with the current vaccine schedules pushed by vets. Vaccination every year is unnecessary and dangerous.
Well, I am currently about to see how Hocus Pocus Parvaid is.
I started the "medication" yesterday at 6pm and followed the directions carefully. This means administering the medication every hour on the hour and watching fluids (talk about tiring). After 3 hours of medication, the vomiting and diaherra stopped. She's well hydrated and consuming small quanities of food this evening. Frankly, she's acting like the regular PITA dog that I am used to.
I am by no means into holistic medicine,but I am amazed at the amount of credit that people give to doctors and vets, especially when it isn't always warranted. I had a stomach virus that cost me in excess of $140 in prescription medicines and ultimately a 33 cent box of jello and some water helped.
Let's see if she makes a full recovery on this Hocus Pocus. Thus far, she seems to be far better than I would have anticipated.
I started the "medication" yesterday at 6pm and followed the directions carefully. This means administering the medication every hour on the hour and watching fluids (talk about tiring). After 3 hours of medication, the vomiting and diaherra stopped. She's well hydrated and consuming small quanities of food this evening. Frankly, she's acting like the regular PITA dog that I am used to.
I am by no means into holistic medicine,but I am amazed at the amount of credit that people give to doctors and vets, especially when it isn't always warranted. I had a stomach virus that cost me in excess of $140 in prescription medicines and ultimately a 33 cent box of jello and some water helped.
Let's see if she makes a full recovery on this Hocus Pocus. Thus far, she seems to be far better than I would have anticipated.
"...if you can't afford $45 for basic vet care then you really shouldn't have a dog... or cat or a hamster for that matter..... something stuffed would really be a better option."
I know that I am brand new here, but wow. Unbelieveable!
I guess you cannot nurture or love something unless your budget always allows for it. Can anyone take two dogs, two rats and two kids?
I know that I am brand new here, but wow. Unbelieveable!
I guess you cannot nurture or love something unless your budget always allows for it. Can anyone take two dogs, two rats and two kids?
I totally agree. I have 8 animals, and it would be absolutely stupid of me to get more if I could not afford any of them. People don't realize how much animals cost. I have a dog, 2 cats, and 5 rats. No kids. If I HAD kids no way in hell I would have gotten so many animals because all of these things COST MONEY.
Every month I HAVE to buy food for three species (I haven't even bothered to try calculating the total but it's probably close to $50), cat litter ($12), rat bedding (10-20), flea and heartworm for dog and cats (holy crap) and a few toys if I feel like it. (The rats are happy with cardboard boxes but the dog needs chew things). If any of these animals gets sick or injured it is a minimum $20 visit (actually my vet is kind and sometimes does not charge for very simple things.). Rats are prone to URIs and their meds cost $15 each time they get sick. When one gets sick, they all get sick if not separated in time.
Pets are not a RIGHT they are a luxury. They are an outlet for your disposable income just like hobbies and events. If you cannot afford their basic care of food and vets, you should not have them!
Every month I HAVE to buy food for three species (I haven't even bothered to try calculating the total but it's probably close to $50), cat litter ($12), rat bedding (10-20), flea and heartworm for dog and cats (holy crap) and a few toys if I feel like it. (The rats are happy with cardboard boxes but the dog needs chew things). If any of these animals gets sick or injured it is a minimum $20 visit (actually my vet is kind and sometimes does not charge for very simple things.). Rats are prone to URIs and their meds cost $15 each time they get sick. When one gets sick, they all get sick if not separated in time.
Pets are not a RIGHT they are a luxury. They are an outlet for your disposable income just like hobbies and events. If you cannot afford their basic care of food and vets, you should not have them!
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