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Help socializing my fearful dog

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#1 ·
Hi all

I'm having trouble figuring out what to do with my fearful dog, and am hoping some of the knowledgeable dog people here can help. Sorry about the long post to come. Here's where we're at.

Dakota is 11 months old. We've had her since she was 9 weeks. She came from a 'friend of a friend' who had an accidental litter. They claim she is Bullmastiff (mom) / Rotti (dad), however I'm doubtful as she is 45lbs and looks a lot like a Pitbull. I didn't meet either of her parents.

We have another dog in our home (5yr old male Shih Tzu/Bichon), and we've had him since he was 7 months. Dakota has always gotten along fine with him. We don't have friends with dogs, so he was her only dog socialization when we first got her until her vaccinations were complete. And we don't have many people to the house, so her early people socialization was limited to the same small group of folks.

As of right now, she is VERY fearful of new people. When someone comes into our home she backs away, gets her head low to the ground (almost a 'play bow' postition) and barks. If they ignore her (as I always instruct them to do), the barking stops after about a minute, but she will stay in a different room and watch around a corner for up to about 20 minutes before approaching. Once she approaches, it all starts up again if the person acknowledges her. It usually takes her about 1/2 hour to fully settle, if the person 100
% ignores her. Once she settles, she's absolutely fine and will sit with them, play, accept treats etc.

There are a few people she 'knows', and when the come into our home she approaches with great caution until she gets a good smell in. My mother-in-law comes over every single week, and we see this 'caution' each and every time. Once she's sure, she settles immediately. And she's fine with our family.

On walks, she has improved such that she will walk past a person as long as we keep moving. If I stop to chat, she barks and hides behind me with her tail between her legs. I generally face her, put her in a sit, then carry on my conversation. This seems to settle her, but we aren't getting past this stage, even with people we meet frequently. If we see a dog, even very far away she barks and carries on the entire time until she can't see them any more. This behaviour has gotten worse - she has only started this in the past couple of months.

My goal is to be able to have people to the house without this 'scene', and to be able to walk her 'normally'.

Please help!
 
#2 ·
First off, kudos to you for recognizing her behaviour and doing what you have to minimize her discomfort. That is half the battle. The other half is using classical conditioning (ie food) to help change how she FEELS about her triggers. Check out the fearful dog threads here on DF and also take a look at this website www.fearfuldogs.com. There is also a bunch of great books you can order, like:
Help for Your Fearful Dog by Nicole Wilde
Scaredy Dog by Ali Brown
You can also take a look as Youtube for videos by Dr. Sophia Yin and by Ahimsa Dog Training (BAT training). If you search youtube for vids on Classical Conditioning you'll get lots to choose from.
 
#3 ·
One thing to begin with would be to have new people toss her treats. Not offer them to her, not look at her, not try to pet her...just toss some chicken on the floor by her so that she begins to learn new people mean good things.
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the ideas!

As for people tossing her treats... our other dog happily gobbles them up before Dakota gets to them. I suppose I could try containing him during this exercise?

My husband took Dakota on a walk today, around the perimiter of the dog park. He walked very fast all around the outside of the fence and she did very well. This is a major improvement, and seems to be specific to him (doesn't work for me). So I've asked him to do this more frequently until it's comfortable for her, before I try.

I'll definitely be looking up the Youtube videos mentioned. Thank you!
 
#5 ·
Well, as I'm sure you know, the fact that she didn't see many people is at least partially responsible for her behavior now. I know it's hard, especially depending on where in the country you live (rural vs. urban), but try to make an effort to get her out to low-traffic places where she will be comfortable like parks as much as possible and eventually work your way up to busier environments.

Really, Cracker hit the nail on the head. It's all about food. It's also about knowing when to give your dog a break. Some people or situations might be too overwhelming for her.. if, for example, you're having a large crowd of people over, or having a person over who doesn't approach your dog the correct way, its best to crate her out of sight.

As for people tossing her treats... our other dog happily gobbles them up before Dakota gets to them. I suppose I could try containing him during this exercise?
Yes.

My favorite fearful dog links:

www.fearfuldogs.com
www.fearfuldogs.wordpress.com
www.groups.yahoo.com/group/shy-k9s
 
#7 · (Edited)
You can get this under control, it's a matter of exposure and conditioning time and effort...

Some things I used were parks.. and group training classes.

I can stay at a distance from people in a park so it's controlled, and reward her or just hang around for a few hours and spend time with strange people going to and fro while we sit under a tree and watch.

Hang out outside the fence at softball games... Kids soccer games, kids playgrounds... Places where people are running, jumping, making noise, all at a distance enough she can be comfortable and get used to it over time before getting closer. Patience is your ally.

Work on strangers giving treats... I found having strangers giving commands helps a lot as well. Teach a few tricks and let others get her to do them, shake hands, lay down, play dead.. and reward with treats...

Work up to going to a petco or petsmart a couple times a week and actually meeting a lot of new people..

Basically get her out and exposed to people as much as she can handle while staying under her panic threshold, as much as you can. Slowly work up to people interacting with her at a pace she can handle.. until she is ok with strangers interacting with her, lots of them.

I recently had a dog much like that, I would guess I introduced her to at least 200 strange people, and did a lot of desensitizing to get there, before she really started getting a lot better.

She'll likely always be a little wary about folks coming into her house, but it should improve drastically with some work.

The best place I found for dog socialization was a large outdoor training class for adult dogs, lots of dogs, lots of classes, and time and patience letting her get used to it at her own pace in a controlled environment. This can be tough depending on your instructor though.
 
#8 ·
You can get this under control, it's a matter of exposure and conditioning time and effort...

Hang out outside the fence at softball games... Kids soccer games, kids playgrounds... Places where people are running, jumping, making noise, all at a distance enough she can be comfortable and get used to it over time before getting closer. Patience is your ally.

Work on strangers giving treats... I found having strangers giving commands helps a lot as well. Teach a few tricks and let others get her to do them, shake hands, lay down, play dead.. and reward with treats...
This is great, thanks! Amazing how easy it is to miss 'logical' stuff in life. We have a horse ring a couple blocks from home.. I'm going to find out their schedule as there is always all sorts of commotion when they have an event on, and it's active all summer long. It would be super easy to take her there, and a pleasant place to just sit for a few hours.

My daughter has been working on teaching her to catch treats. She's basically got it down, and I think this will help a lot when new people approach. We'd be making huge strides if I could get a stranger to have her 'sit' then 'catch'.