[peace36]

Bailey,

Your lab really sounds like more than a handful. I have known people with labs before and yes I have heard they are high energy dogs but you dog sounds nuts. If your vet put her on meds and they are not working I would talk to some other trainers or behavioulists.

Even in humans. 2 mentally sound people can have a baby and the child could wind up retarded or bi-polar or all kinds of things.

This is a dog. Not that we do not value thier lives the same as humans but they are not the same as humans. If he has some kind of mental disorder maybe it is better to put him to sleep.


I dont meant to sound cruel but it its a thought. I am not even saying you should because I do not know your dog. But I have heard some dogs just arent right in the head.

I would 1st talk to some other dog experts. Sorry to hear of all your going through.

 

[peace36]

I was not implying that right away the dog should be put down.

The fact that the vet put the dog on some sort of "mood" medication sounded like the dog had some kind of mental problem and if the meds did not work I can only imagine the dog will get worse in time not better.

Either the dog can be some ones pet or not. It sounds like a wild animal to me. and I have met some pretty wild dogs before but nothing like this dog sounds.

Anyway definately putting a dog down is a last LAST resort.

 

[peace36]

I have a couple of concerns.

First euthanizing a dog because you can't handle her behavior is not fair so I would disregard that piece of advise (I know you didn't say it)

My concern is that you are so fed up that you are not seeing normal puppy behavior and you are seeing some behavior that is not normal and is over the top but you are also seeing normal puppy behavior as annoying at this point and as much more than it is..... for example your dog is not aggressively trying to drown your ten year old, dogs don't understand drowning all your dog wants to do is play in the pool.... THAT IS NORMAL ..... if you are fed up with your dog and are unable at this point to see any good in your pup then it is time to consider rehoming her as the relationship may be irreperably damaged.... I am concerned when someone thinks an 11 mos. old dog is deliberately trying to drown family members in an aggressive manor....

your dog loves you and wants to be with you..... you are seeing that as annoying and a problem.....

your dog wants to play with you and swim wiht you.... you are viewing that as aggressive.....

your dog wants to play and play and play.... well that is normal behavior for an 11 mos old labrador....

good dogs are made..... you cant compare a 4-5 year old with a year old baby.... you also have to consider that consistency is key in any training so it is up to you to figure out and be honest about whether you and your training is consistent....

I agree with the others about the allergies..... I would also have a thyroid panel done to rule out a thyroid issue..... and some of the other medical advice from others who posted....

I also think that puppyhood is over rated as a general rule and while they are adorable they are not easy and they are what we make them....

it may be a better option to rehome your puppy and get an older dog..... I can't say I don't have some real concerns that while you love her.... you are viewing this entire problem as your dogs problem..... and a dog is a dog... while there may be other issues happening, it is up to us to fix them and the question is whether you are up to that or have the time to see that process through.
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Shalva, and I am not disagreeing with you in an angry way. I have huge respect for you and your advice and see you as very knowledgable and a reputable breeder.

How do you know the dog is not being aggressive. Maybe it does have some sort of mental problem? Maybe poorly bred with an inherited horrible temperment problem?


Maybe the dog is nuts. With all the puppy mills around I am willing to bet their are quite a few dogs that can not be helped to be a "good dog" because of the bad breeding. and parents not having the proper testing done before breeding?

 

[peace36]

peace36... im glad YOU dont have this dog. this dog is not "mental" alright? hes a puppy! and even if the actions were "agressive" (which i dont think they are at all) thats something that can be worked on and fixed. you sound like someone who wouldnt invest much time in a dog like this. and thats exactly what this dog needs, time, and effort. you cant just look at a behavior such as his and say "oh hes mental that cant be fixed". i think this dog has a lot of potential, and just has an owner that is looking for some guidence. it seems all you want to say is that the dog has mental problems, you have offered no REAL solution to the "problem" but your suggestion of putting him down, which is completely asinine.

You really did not thoughly reading my posts

If it were my dog I would problably do what the poster is doing getting advise and hopefully calling a behaivealist. Maybe there is more we dont know. The poster mentioned the lab being put on medication did not sound normal to me.

Shalva thanks for explaining a bit more to me. Yeah I guess the dog would not think that he was actually drowning the child.

 

[peace36]

Bailey,

Some people seem to be implying that that behaivor is normal for a lab puppy. If that is true well then WOW! I had no idea. I know my neighbors Lab barks alot and I mean alot! They put it in our yard once because they were having company and the child was afraid of dogs. I tell you that dog has such a loud bark the walls of our house vibrated from it.

Their dog barking does not bother me I guess their is enough distance between our houses but if the dog actually lived in our house I wouldnt like it too much.

Sounds like you are giving your dog a ton of exercise too. I wonder what other people do in a situation like your? And how long does it take (if this is typical lab behavior) to grow out of it?

 

[peace36]

Ok. Now I have been thinking about the barking and I have some advise that worked great for me. My Malti-poo is not a yapper but at night I put him and my shih-tzu gated off in the kitchen.

Max started barking because he wanted to be up in my bedroom. So I did what Cesar Milan does on The Dog Whisperer. I calmly walked down stars and made that TsssK! noise as I did the bite with my hand near his neck. Of course inflicting zero pain. I did that about 3 times (each time he barked) and he stopped.

Now once in a while in the middle of the night he will try barking to come upstairs and all I have to do is stand at the top of the stairs point at him and TssK and he stops.

Maybe this would work for you? It sounds kinda funny but it really worked. He hates that noise,,LoL.

 

[peace36]

i think that works in mild cases. but it may work here, theres nothing else to lose right. they did that in puppy class with the ones who would bark, but i never used it with Chloe. she never barked, and if she occationally did it was for my attention for something or because she was really really playing. now that i have tought her the "speak" command she can do it more often, but anyway, i just used to tell her "enough" or "shhhh quiet" and she would stop. but it was like she came as a pre-programmed pup anyway, i never had to teach her much, she already knew it. shes a weird thing..

You have a Great Dane? Good thing she did'nt have a barking problem as I would imagine with a doggie that size she would have a pretty loud bark