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Pickleisaminidaschi

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What do you think? I personally don't like it.... My mini schnauzer's tail got docked when he was just a baby but his ears are natural. I personally use the saying "Not your body not your dessision." What do you think?


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I think it depends on the owners personal preference, our breed the boston terrier can be shown natural or with cropped ears.I do not believe in cropping boston ears personally , with our dogs one of the things we breed for and have in our line are nice v-shaped ears that sit high on the head and set off the headpiece very nicely.In boxers danes dobermans cane corso ect I like cropped ears and tails.A properly done cropped ear can really be the icing on the cake for a really nice head.

ETA- that I do clip all dew-claws,I have had too many that have been torn and with our breed eye injuries are a big concern.
 
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I really hate the idea of cutting off part of an animals body because we like the way it looks. Call me a crazy hippy naturalist but I just don't see how to justify it. I know that some say that the reason to dock tails is because they wack things and get hurt. Same idea with dew claws. Naturally if there is part of an animal that isn't essential that sometimes gets injured we should just cut it off during infancy. . .especially if we didn't like the way it looked anyway.

My coonhound does wack things with her tail and sometimes cracks it open and it bleeds. Tragic as it may sound, instead of CUTTING IT OFF I simply bandage it. She is still happy and healthy and not to mention she communicates with her tail. . .she DEFINATELY uses it. Dogs use their ears and tails to communicate with us and each other, as we are all aware.

I'm not on a crusade to condemn all of those who support cropping/docking, but I really don't consider cutting off body parts a matter of "personal preference."
 
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I think for working dogs its great. Along with anything else that is helpful to them.

Otherwise I don't think its needed nor do I see a reason to do it. Especially with many of the breeders doing it for show, to keep the breeds look yet they crop the ears quite a bit longer then the working ancestors were cropped.

Pickleisaminidaschi said:
What do you think? I personally don't like it.... My mini schnauzer's tail got docked when he was just a baby but his ears are natural. I personally use the saying "Not your body not your dessision." What do you think?


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I think the opposite. My dog is my decision, besides what they are allowed to do under free will I make the decisions. They are my responsibility. I chose if they will or won't have a surgery (whether that would be something elective like spay or crop), what collar they will wear, when/what they will eat, that they will be leashed on walks. Certainly not my body but my decisions to make none the less. I don't agree with letting a dog live their life without my decisions no more then any other animal or a child.
 
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I don't want to be accused of being mean:p...but we did just have a very long thread about this...but I know we have a lot of new people

I don't mind as long as it is done properly by the right person.
 
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Spicy1_VV said:
I think for working dogs its great. Along with anything else that is helpful to them.

Otherwise I don't think its needed nor do I see a reason to do it. Especially with many of the breeders doing it for show, to keep the breeds look yet they crop the ears quite a bit longer then the working ancestors were cropped.



I think the opposite. My dog is my decision, besides what they are allowed to do under free will I make the decisions. They are my responsibility. I chose if they will or won't have a surgery (whether that would be something elective like spay or crop), what collar they will wear, when/what they will eat, that they will be leashed on walks. Certainly not my body but my decisions to make none the less. I don't agree with letting a dog live their life without my decisions no more then any other animal or a child.
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I do believe Spicy has got it all covered, personally I am fed up with the do-gooders attempting to make/force decisions on others. I don't agree with all the ear/nose/navel or any other body appendages that get pierced on a regular basis, but I will fight for your right to do so. Whether it's dogs or people, we will always have the edge walkers such as the Dobe owners that are attempting to mimic Dumbo the flying elephant's ears, a strong man being attacked by one of these Dumbo-eared Dobes defending his owner's home could grab both ears swing dog and break his back against a wall. There were reasons when a lot of the docking programs began that may seem archaic now but not originally. Whether a person is pro or con on docking as Spicy stated is a personal decision.
 
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wvasko said:
I do believe Spicy has got it all covered, personally I am fed up with the do-gooders attempting to make/force decisions on others. I don't agree with all the ear/nose/navel or any other body appendages that get pierced on a regular basis, but I will fight for your right to do so. Whether it's dogs or people, we will always have the edge walkers such as the Dobe owners that are attempting to mimic Dumbo the flying elephant's ears, a strong man being attacked by one of these Dumbo-eared Dobes defending his owner's home could grab both ears swing dog and break his back against a wall. There were reasons when a lot of the docking programs began that may seem archaic now but not originally. Whether a person is pro or con on docking as Spicy stated is a personal decision.
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I absolutely agree! Personally I feel all those who want to impose their preferences on other people should go to some desert island together and impose their wills on each other. Quite frankly I don't think they consider the unintended consequences. I'm not saying anyone here is necessarily one of these people, just to be careful when you support taking away anyone's right to make a personal decission that might be opposed to your beliefs about something.

As far as tail docking goes, since it's done when the pup is about 2-3 days old before the nervous system is fully functioning, it's a minor operation usually done by either the breeder or the breeder's vet. So, unless you're a breeder or the breeder's agreed to leave the tail on your pup undocked before the pup's born, this decission is the breeders and not yours to make. Later tail docking should only be done by a vet for emergency reasons such as a badly broken tail.

I'll admit to mixed feelings on ear cropping but feel it should be left up to the breeder and the pup's owner.:D
 
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wvasko said:
I do believe Spicy has got it all covered, personally I am fed up with the do-gooders attempting to make/force decisions on others. I don't agree with all the ear/nose/navel or any other body appendages that get pierced on a regular basis, but I will fight for your right to do so. Whether it's dogs or people, we will always have the edge walkers such as the Dobe owners that are attempting to mimic Dumbo the flying elephant's ears, a strong man being attacked by one of these Dumbo-eared Dobes defending his owner's home could grab both ears swing dog and break his back against a wall. There were reasons when a lot of the docking programs began that may seem archaic now but not originally. Whether a person is pro or con on docking as Spicy stated is a personal decision.
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I'm honestly getting to the point of not caring either way. It's bad, but it's true.
 
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wvasko said:
I do believe Spicy has got it all covered, personally I am fed up with the do-gooders attempting to make/force decisions on others. I don't agree with all the ear/nose/navel or any other body appendages that get pierced on a regular basis, but I will fight for your right to do so. There were reasons when a lot of the docking programs began that may seem archaic now but not originally. Whether a person is pro or con on docking as Spicy stated is a personal decision.
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