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I was in the vet's office today, getting Molly's stitches taken out from her spay. There was a lady there with a doxie/pom mix puppy. She told the receptionist that she had gotten her from a breeder with something like 30 dogs :eek:, poms, doxies, yorkies, and poodles :eek: The lady with the puppy sounded like she dissaproved.
She asked me how old Molly was, so I told her and I told her why Molly was there. To which she replied that she wasn't getting her puppy spayed until she's had a few litters. I was shocked and just said oh and turned my attention back to Molly. All I could think is why? Your dog is a mutt. Aren't there enough dogs without homes?
So, what do you say when someone blatantly tells you they're gonna breed their dog?
 

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Since I volunteer at the local shelter I ask them if they've ever been there.
 

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Sometimes there's nothing you can say. A co-worker bred her chihuahua. Got 4 puppies out of her and had to do a c-section. She kept one of the puppies and plans on breeding her. She's getting the mom spayed because she had trouble with the delivery. But when I saw this puppy...She has an over bite and looks like a chihuahua/jack russle mix. When I said why would you even think of breeding her when she doesn't look like a pure bred, as well as the overbite that could be passed on the the puppies...She said she was fine, and that she does NOT look like a jack russle, and how she wants at least one litter with her...*sigh* I gave up with it.
 

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For someone you don't know like that, lecturing her wouldn't do any good. It'd probably just have caused a fight. If it was me, I'dve just treated her coldly after that. Unless someone WANTS to hear your opinion, it won't change them to share it.
 

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I usually drop a comment about why I fixed my guys (overpopulation, my experience working at the shelter and watching little puppies die, heats and puppies being a PITA, etc. I just pick one) Sometimes they do change their minds on their own if I do this. I know I can't really lecture them on it, because that will usually irk people, and just make them want to do it more, because I told them they shouldn't (human nature lol). But sometimes if I use my own experiences as a reason, we end up seeing eye to eye.
 

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AH!!! These people a few doors down from us have this big ol' mutt. She just recently had something like her 5th litter..and every litter she has around 10-12 puppies. so that is what? at least 50 puppies.

She was talking to me once when the pups were first born-she was asking me if i wanted one. I said no, i have maybe and i mentioned something about having gotten her spayed asap cuz i didn't want to be responsible to accidental litters and having to try and find good homes for them-especially in this town(sadly i live in a very small somewhat isolated community where most children aren't even properly taken care of ) and she responded in agreement about how out of all the puppies their dog has had only two from the past litters are still living. and how sad that is.... Then she said that they were going to keep one or two of the puppies and what ever ones they could immediately find good homes for, and the rest they were just going to "do away with" so they wouldn't end up having to suffer being in bad homes!?!?!?! UM GET YOUR DOG SPAYED?!?

but no apparently that is expensive!! their attempt at trying to keep their dog from getting pregnant was to build it a kennel in the yard...obviously that didn't do anything since the last two litters have been since then.

ya i really don't know what to say to them either.....
 

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I say, "Good luck with that."

I have limited influence over my friends and family. I don't pretend I'm going to change a complete stranger's mind with a few words of wisdom.

(That's why I rarely argue on this forum.)
 

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Praise be!! Folks from where I come from aren't like that at all. I haven't even heard of anyone having puppies around here. I haven't seen a litter since I was in high school and that was a litter of kittens.

People around here are pretty responsible and well educated about pet over population.

Someone is having puppies and kittens though, for there are two shelters in the county that I live in and they are always asking for volunteers and donations of food, paper towels, manpower, etc.. so I know they have a critical need.
 

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I think I would be very sincere........versus "preachy" Many times peoples opinions and beliefs can come off offensive. I always believe in its NOT WHAT YOU SAY ITS HOW YOU SAY IT.

You have a good heart and people tend to believe you most when your sincere - - - - Even if your in complete disagreement:mad:

And some people like me are learning daily and until someone says something we may never get it.......
 

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I ask WHY they want to breed their dog? Particularily if it is a mixed breed.. if they say, "Oh...we want the kids to see the miracle of birth!..We want them to see a litter of puppies being born!"

I say, "Well, then you should let them see the misery of death! Let them watch as beautiful, healthy mixed and purebred puppies (and adults) are killed at shelters, because their aren't enough homes for them. Let them watch as their lifeless bodies are disposed of in black hefty bags like so much garbarge!"

People in their ignorance and selfishness embarrass me. :(
 

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I ask WHY they want to breed their dog? Particularily if it is a mixed breed.. if they say, "Oh...we want the kids to see the miracle of birth!..We want them to see a litter of puppies being born!"

I say, "Well, then you should let them see the misery of death! Let them watch as beautiful, healthy mixed and purebred puppies (and adults) are killed at shelters, because their aren't enough homes for them. Let them watch as their lifeless bodies are disposed of in black hefty bags like so much garbarge!"
Or just point out there are several very nice documentaries about dogs that show it too. In the Womb: Dogs, for example. Mention that it's much easier and safer to just watch it on TV. =P
 

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I had someone working at the vet, asked me if I was going to breed my klee kai just because she is rare. I told them I was getting her spay, and it's in the contract. Guess what I get asked next.




How will they know, they going to call us ?
I was speechless.
 

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I ask which vet they'r eusing, do they like Dr. Esmonds (the main reproductive specialist/health testing vet in our area), who are they doing their puppy eyechecks with, do they know about the VCA's hospital on c-sections (mandatory spay) and basically ASSUME they've done everything responsible. And then I ask for their health testing info, contact info, and contract, because mayb eI would like to pass it on to people I know looking for dogs. And when they don't have that? Oops, sorry, I don't want to support people breeding irresponsibly. :p
 

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Why care, they are not my dogs.. i will never know nothing else about that person, or dog, therefore it's like the problem never existed to me.

That's how i think, and it saves me alot of stress and anger over things that will happen anyway.
 

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Why care, they are not my dogs.. i will never know nothing else about that person, or dog, therefore it's like the problem never existed to me.
I care because I feel a social responsiblity not to bring more dogs into a world where there will not be enough homes for them, and I believe that all people should feel that social responsibility. I care because I've been to every dog pound in my city (there are 3 of them) and I've seen what people's irresponsibility and selfishness has cost the animals there.
 

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I REALLY like the idea of telling the person to visit the local animal shelter...because that's where 50% of dogs will end up. And most of the dogs she'll see at the animal shelter will be put to sleep because there's no one to take them, especially if they are mixed breeds.

It's non-confrontational because it doesn't require a reply from the other party. It doesn't say "you're wrong because..." It just suggests a visit to go see some dogs.
 

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Yeah you don't see much of that, if any, in my neighborhood. Out of the cities, though, for sure you do, like in Riverview and Land O Lakes. I usually don't say much- though if the person seems responsive, I tell them about low cost altering.

If the person breeds healthy dogs and finds them responsible homes, I don't have a problem with it. I am not as anti-breeding as most, probably. But I would never condone breeding mixes carelessly or breeding dogs that are known to be unhealthy or have poor temperaments.
 

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If the person breeds healthy dogs and finds them responsible homes, I don't have a problem with it. I am not as anti-breeding as most, probably. But I would never condone breeding mixes carelessly or breeding dogs that are known to be unhealthy or have poor temperaments.
Personally, I'd never condone breeding mixes period. I've always found it strange that intentionally cross breeding is somewhat acceptable in the dog world. I'm a fishkeeper and it's a given that certain fish should not be kept in the same tanks as other kinds of fish for the simple reason that they will cross breed. Parrot fish are looked down on in most circles simply because they are hybrids. There are many fish keepers who will deliberately cull hybrid fry. It's interesting to me that in the dog world cockapoos, puggles, labradoodles and the like are intentionally bred for profit.
 
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