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Yes, I know, amazing right? Well it was actually pretty cool because he's a few years old and has never learned sit. He came into the hotel for camp and I got to try to teach him Sit yesterday. He just would not put his butt down! I lured him, he'd just back back back up! I watched him for 30 minutes, he never once sat or laid down on his own! I would have waited more but I had to put him back in camp. I even tried gently putting my hand on his butt and he was scared of that!

Today I took him out and this time I tied his leash to the door so he couldn't continuously back up. I lured him with the treat over his head and he kept trying to back up. Finally I tried my hand on his butt really gently and was able to help him sit down. After a few minutes he had it all on his own! I was so proud.

I put him back in camp and a few hours later when his mom picked him up, I asked him to sit with a verbal and hand cue and he DID! She was SO impressed! This dog, everyone calls him stupid but he's not, he just needed a little help. Later I started teaching him leave it and he was so cute, he got it right away, after we got sit it was like everything clicked and you can see the wheels in his head turning.

I can't wait to see him next time and see how Mom did with the sit at home!

Okay that's my story. I know it's not much but it was really rewarding today!
 

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Why are you asking me how to teach a dog to sit. Looks to me like you got the problem licked. Good Job.
 

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Why are you asking me how to teach a dog to sit. Looks to me like you got the problem licked. Good Job.
I was asking how YOU do it, not how I should do it ;)
 

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Nice job - sit seems simple, but it's an important behavior. Now that you have it, you can start using it for a whole host of things.

Now may also a good time to establish it as his default behavior (i.e. when in doubt, sit). That can be useful later. It can be his behavior when he's "asking" you for something or for interaction, etc.
 

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You don't need the methods I use, When you take an older dog that is a tad scared and you have success there is no way my program can help you. I might have taken the dog to a corner so retreating was not an option, but that might have backfired because with no retreat possible he might have panicked. See I'm not much help at all. You were there, you read the dog and it was a very good read.
 

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You don't need the methods I use, When you take an older dog that is a tad scared and you have success there is no way my program can help you. I might have taken the dog to a corner so retreating was not an option, but that might have backfired because with no retreat possible he might have panicked. See I'm not much help at all. You were there, you read the dog and it was a very good read.
I don't want to use them I'm just curious what it is, because of how you always talk about your training. The way you talk about it with negative reinforcement the only thing I can imagine is you are using something like an e-collar and constantly using it until the dog sits. I thought if you explained it I might see how you are successful this way because I can't imagine how your methods work - but obviously they do. I guess it is hard to imagine but I do read about things I don't agree with or will never use.

I love the clicker and treats, I wouldn't want to use anything else (especially since this is at work and that's what we do ;) ). But you don't have to explain, I understand your concern about other people trying to mimic it and I actually respect that because from what I understand, most people shouldn't be doing it that way. Which is what makes me wonder how you make it work ;)

BUT - thank you for the compliment :)
 

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I don't want to use them I'm just curious what it is, because of how you always talk about your training. The way you talk about it with negative reinforcement the only thing I can imagine is you are using something like an e-collar and constantly using it until the dog sits. I thought if you explained it I might see how you are successful this way because I can't imagine how your methods work - but obviously they do. I guess it is hard to imagine but I do read about things I don't agree with or will never use.

I love the clicker and treats, I wouldn't want to use anything else (especially since this is at work and that's what we do ;) ). But you don't have to explain, I understand your concern about other people trying to mimic it and I actually respect that because from what I understand, most people shouldn't be doing it that way. Which is what makes me wonder how you make it work ;)

BUT - thank you for the compliment :)
If you were to check some of my posts/replies you would know I am not fond of e-collars though I own one but in all the years training I might have used it on possibly 10 dogs mainly bird-dog work. I have never used an e-collar on obedience work. My collars of choice are Prong and Marti collar used together. The way I make it work is years of reading dogs and making an educated guess on what to do and when to do it. Having read your posts/replies I know my methods are not what you would ever use and yes you are 100% correct on the mimic worries. I am not clicker oriented but am pro-reward/treats, and pro-consequences. Short story is that the dogs will dictate how I teach the sit and all dogs are not created equal. As far as the compliment, positive motivation is good for dog people also. If I have the story correct this was a non-gratis volunteer teaching of the sit. Good work and a nice gesture on your part. You did get a little payback as this is a dog that learned from you and you learned from the dog. My personal creed is that the only way to become a dog trainer is to train dogs, lots of dogs. My opinion only.
 

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Actually they paid us to teach him ;) He'll be back for 3 more sessions but hopefully we can get a lot done.

So I was sorta right, something "like" an e-collar ;)

Thanks!
 
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