[tw1n]

Sebastian in the last week or so has gotten really bad with submissive peeing.

It used to be he'd see a big dog, and pee on himself.

He's good with dogs now, but everything else seems to make him pee.


He was climbing on my niece, just fine, not peeing from excitment, and the second I pulled him off he let it go all over my couch. I had to carry him peeing all the way out side. (bad idea, cleaning in one spot would have been easier)


Last night I went to take the two puppies outside to go potty, and he just sat at the door. I nudged him to get him to move and once again he pees. So I push him out the door, and he rolls onto his back and pees on his stomach.

Is this dog just that much of a chicken? Everything scares him to the point he pees?

Will he grow out of this? I've never had a dog do this.

Is there a method to working with submissive peeing?

 

[FourIsCompany]

Is there a method to working with submissive peeing?

Yes. Obedience training. Instead of handling your dog physically (pulling him off your niece, nudging him to move and pushing him out the door) teach him the commands "off" and "outside" so he can move his body instead of you. If he is in control of his body, he'll be MUCH less likely to pee. Be patient. Since he grew out of it with dogs, he'll probably grow out of it with people, too. But you must learn to respect his physical space and tell him what to do instead of physically moving him.

 

[Cracker]

It sounds like he's a very exciteable and submissive puppy. Many puppies DO grow out of the "excitement" peeing as it's simply based on bladder control..but the roll over or squat pee is definitely something that can become a true behaviour issue.
How much correction do you use in your training? Is he sound sensitive? Space sensitive? Some dogs will pee if you "loom' over them, speak too loudly or even just say NO in a harsh way.
How old is he? Puppies go through several fear stages in their first year of development, one at around 7 weeks, one at about 14 weeks and again at around six months. Some go through another at around 1 year. In those times, any thing that frightens them can leave lasting effects.
If you could come back with some more details that would be helpful.

Will he make eye contact with you?
Does he turn his head away when you work with him or approach him?
Does he hide at any time? When?
What are the exact circumstances that happen when he urinates submissively and what are YOU doing at that time? Grabbing his collar? Picking him up? Correcting him?

Please be sure that I am NOT accusing you of overcorrection here, I just want as much detail as possible to ensure the tips I give are going to be accurate.

 

[tw1n]

I do worry I'm not helping. I tend to get very aggrivated which only makes it worse.

He does make eye contact, and he honestly just looks scared. It's mostly on the whole idea of going outside. He's a very social dog every other time. He'll climb all over me trying to get some loven. That's that part that makes this so hard to understand. He's a normal puppy 90% of the time. But he gets into a mood where he's just afraid.

It also seems all obiedence he's learned goes out the window at this time.

 

[Thracian]

Have you ruled out a physical cause? That's always a good first step.

 

[FourIsCompany]

I do worry I'm not helping. I tend to get very aggrivated which only makes it worse.

Absolutely does make it worse. Decide which is more important to you. Getting aggravated or having him not pee. Easy choice.

He does make eye contact, and he honestly just looks scared.

I would say that if you think you're entering a situation where he would normally pee, be sure that you DON'T make eye contact. In fact, ignore him as much as possible.

It's mostly on the whole idea of going outside.

Then I would do something like this. Start working on a new routine around going outside and do it the same way every time. For example, if it's potty time, you grab a treat and walk to the door and call him in your sweetest voice. As he approaches (remember DON'T look at him) you open the door and walk through it, calling him and luring with the treat if necessary (while looking the other way). Once he gets outside, drop the treat and walk on out into the yard.

He's a very social dog every other time. He'll climb all over me trying to get some loven. That's that part that makes this so hard to understand.

That's actually a very good sign. He's probably associating going outside with you being aggravated. So, every time it's time to go outside, he thinks you're going to be aggravated. Try to change his mind about that. NEVER do it again. He'll get used to the new and improved you.

Be patient and if he pees, act like you don't even see it. And once he's out of the area, you can clean it up. This too shall pass.

 

[tw1n]

He is a very food motivated dog. I imagine I'm just going to have to start all over in his potty training and get him to potty outside for treats.


I think he's affraid of water. He tried to get a racoon, which is almost his size, 'cause he's only a puppy. So it's not an animal out back scaren him. It's just every time it rains (here in florida it's been almost every day for the last 2 months) he's deathly affraid to go outisde, even when the rain stops.