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I couldn't help but post, today I took my one year old chessie out for a run in our local park. He was an angel (lets face it, he's either an angel OR a devil) properly at a heel, ignoring other dogs, properly greeting strangers, and every person I ever met told me how pretty of a chocolate lab or labradoodle I have :rolleyes:

When I told a couple pushing a stroller with a MAYBE 6 month old baby said "oh honey, we should get one of those, look how well behaved he is!" I wanted to smack them across the face. It was like deja vu. My roomates ex wife fell in love with Emmet (my chessie) so she went to a breeder and got a female version. Well, she had a 4 year old boy, 2 year old girl and has twins on the way :eek: She now has a 6 month old monster who rips apart the yard, constantly gets out of her yard, barks all day/night, is aggressive or overly friendly (will either bite you or jump all over you). I think its awful for the breed to have someone like her who just assumed that her dog would end up line mine. :(

Is my dog wonderful? Yes Is my dog well behaved? Yes Did it happen over night, hell no. It took hours upon hours of training, socializing, etc and he's still a work in progress. Why do people assume one good, obedient dog means he popped out of the womb that way? I remember pet sitting for a chocolate lab that was a menice because the woman bought him because her friend had a 10 year old lab who was wonderful. She didn't research the breed, ended up buying a field line lab that is a nutcase, picked him up at 5 almost 6 weeks old. Great looking dog, very driven/focused, would've made an amazing duck dog but now he's a distructive pet.

I sometimes feel like I'm one of the only chessie owners in the world (obviously I'm not :p) and there is such a bad wrap about them. My vet told me if he was nasty by a year old and still unfixed she didn't want to "deal" with him. :( My groomer (who he adores and is an angel for) says he's the only chessie she's dealt with that didn't try to take her face off. yikes. He met another chessie, who he lifted a lip to lol, at petco one day and I was mortified when he did so. But as a chessie he is his own person. I wouldn't call him aggressive, or nasty. Opinionated? oh yea.

But anyway, my point... There have been many breeds that I have owned that I would suggest in a heart beat (bostons, border collie mixes, rottweilers, etc) but my chessie... I think I'd rather steer someone away, I love my dog and his breed but in the wrong hands... boy oh boy you're looking at a lawsuit. I'm sure there are lots of breeds like that, because if you're willing to deal with the downsides of the breeds, you can embrace the good parts. (like how snuggly he is, how mellow he is... litterally sleeping on my feet right now lol, how good he is in the house but can go all day when he's outside. Brilliantally smart, my boy is a gorgous example of the breed... I'll have to get some pics up here ^.^)
 

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The odds of anyone you casually run into actually finding and buying a Chessie because of the encounter are near zero. Enjoy people admiring your dogs good behaviour for what it is.
 

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The odds of anyone you casually run into actually finding and buying a Chessie because of the encounter are near zero. Enjoy people admiring your dogs good behaviour for what it is.
well someone actually HAS bought a chessie because of my dog. So its obviously not near zero. lol
 

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She went to YOUR breeder or A breeder? Either way, I don't know many reputable Chessie breeders that would sell to that home for exactly the reason you described...chaos and NO structure for a breed that REALLY needs it.
 

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not my breeder, I fixed it :)

No my breeder was a pain to deal with lol. I had to do 2 home inspections, give a million refrences, prove that I had successfully trained another dog (I used my parents dogs as examples) and he is still half owned by the breeder. Which is wonderful, I'm really blessed to have a chessie from her, she only breeds about once every 3 or 4 years, finishes all of her dogs conformation and field titles. His father is 6 and has an obedience title as well, as well as being a therapy dog. :) Great examples of the breed. They're really not that popular for good reason.

she probably got it from a byb, which is a shame. I know my breeder refuses to sell to kids under 5 or people planning on having kids within 3 years.
 

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Sounds like you got yourself a good breeder Spirit :) The Chessie can be a tough breed to own
 

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Sounds like you got yourself a good breeder Spirit :) The Chessie can be a tough breed to own
thanks :) They are a VERY tough breed but its a great challenge, I wanted a flat coat origionally but fell in love with them at a field trial. I gotta admit its been a long road and I don't think I'd ever honestly suggest the breed to anyone. I don't think you're average person is equipt to handle them.


I'm sure its the same (maybe not as intense) but I know I wouldn't suggest a rottweiler to someone who isn't ready to work with them, or a boston to a person who is never home. I know you have a GSD which is an amazing breed and better suited for most people but I'm sure you wouldn't suggest that breed of dog to a lot of homes.
 

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I know you have a GSD which is an amazing breed and better suited for most people but I'm sure you wouldn't suggest that breed of dog to a lot of homes.
Yeah...and I'm just a lucky git that bought one from a BYB and did NO research, and ended up with a fantastic dog and fell in love with the breed.

I'm in the 0.1% of people that happens to x.x

If I weren't as tenacious as I am now, and hadn't SWORN that I wouldn't do what my mother did with the rest of my dogs and just give them away when things got tough, Strauss wouldn't be here. He can be a REALLY tough dog to live with some days. You wouldn't believe the tears I've shed over him and his training (maybe you would...you do have a Chessie xD!).

There are a TON of people I can think of right off the top of my head that I wouldn't recommend a GSD to. My buddy Thurber comes to mind.

He thinks he wants a Strauss puppy. I told him that he should take Strauss to Chicago with him for just one week and see how much he wants a Strauss puppy then! The puppy may not end up exactly like his daddy, but I can promise you he'd be a troublesome git to some degree!
 

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Yeah...and I'm just a lucky git that bought one from a BYB and did NO research, and ended up with a fantastic dog and fell in love with the breed.

I'm in the 0.1% of people that happens to x.x

If I weren't as tenacious as I am now, and hadn't SWORN that I wouldn't do what my mother did with the rest of my dogs and just give them away when things got tough, Strauss wouldn't be here. He can be a REALLY tough dog to live with some days. You wouldn't believe the tears I've shed over him and his training (maybe you would...you do have a Chessie xD!).

There are a TON of people I can think of right off the top of my head that I wouldn't recommend a GSD to. My buddy Thurber comes to mind.

He thinks he wants a Strauss puppy. I told him that he should take Strauss to Chicago with him for just one week and see how much he wants a Strauss puppy then! The puppy may not end up exactly like his daddy, but I can promise you he'd be a troublesome git to some degree!
Lmao!!

I think it brings you closer when you have a dog that isn't easy to train... or well, mine was easy to train just he has a mind of his own. One minutes its "whatever you want mom" to "go ** yourself" XD XD XD I love that it keeps me working, keeps me thinking.

Lol, everyone wants a well behaved dog but no one wants to work, I'm sure you're friend would love your dog but if he had to go through all you had to I think he'd change his mind ;) I'm glad your guy worked out, I've seen so many bad looking GSDs come out of BYB. Although honestly I'm not crazy about the slant hips thing I see in show dogs. My favorite is sch gsds, or ones straight from germany. Atlhough they are so intense idk if they're really pet dogs. Do they even have GSDs still herding? I don't think I've ever heard of one @[email protected]

man I am so wordy today (well, always lol!) I just keep rambling on and on :p
 

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I feel the same way with LeRoy. With him being an American Bulldog, not every home would be ideal. Although I love the bully breed, they are not for everyone. Wrong hands = bad news.
 

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Strauss's issue isn't that he's hard to train in the general sense. His big issue is that he'll be in drive one minute...and OVER drive the next, and trying to shift that #*(@&%*(@#U so and so back into neutral used to be near IMPOSSIBLE!

Mouse LOVES to work, and he does everything he can to please me, but if he gets too "up" he can be difficult to control (Dogstar can attest to this...she's seen him working in several venues).

And there are still some dogs doing herding testing :) Look up Brix v Eichenluft HGH on youtube ^_^

Kirschental is also known as the premier herding GSD kennel
 

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Sound like your dog fits you well though! It's great to hear about the connection you have with your Chessie :)

I tend to use my dogs to promote their "breed"...aka the Mystery Mutt. Kim in particular...I consider it a positive thing to have people ask what kind of dog she is because they'd like one too, and just reply rescue mystery mix.

Most people though, want a Webster...and if I knew what was in him, I would specifically not recommend that combination to many people, lol.
 

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i will not recommend a Border Collie or even a Border mix to just anyone....i try real hard to keep people from wanting one by "showing off" just how much drive they can have (mine will race across the park, hell bent for leather, and making enuff noise that you'd think they were going to tear each other apart....it's a game they have always played and it keeps the desire for a BC down w/ a lot of ppl...they think it's normal behavior for the breed)....

but there are many out there that have no business having one....
 

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I have a lot of people that watch my dogs, spend some time around them, and think the same thing- they want a Malinois. I'm glad I have such well trained, well-behaved dogs, but I agree, you make other people want one!

Good for you for sticking to your guns on this. Hope your friend's dog gets more time and training...
 

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I lived with Strauss for three weeks and I'd still take a Strauss puppy in a heartbeat. :p Overdrive, sure, but the willingness to work makes up for it. :) <3s Strauss!

I talk a lot more people out of Cardis than into them. I *do* recommend collies fairly frequently by comparison, but it's mostly to families with little kids who think they want an Aussie and have fallen in love with the blue merle fluffy look. Roughs DO need grooming, but in general, the collies are a pretty easy dog to live with and the energy level is so moderate.

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This is why I have greyhounds. LOL Not a lot of work or effort or formal training needs to go into them to have a well behaved, polite pet. Most of them just come off the track that way. A combination of their training + natural breed temperament.

HOWEVER, there are traits about greyhounds that make them unsuitable for some homes. First - I would consider them aloof. Many pet folks want a dog that worships the ground they walk on and will live and die by any command uttered by their owner. That is not a greyhound. And this can cause some people to be disappointed in their greyhound...when really, they're just a more independent breed. Second - many folks want a dog that can be off leash. That is not a greyhound. In my book, this is not negotiable. Third - While greyhounds come off the track as adults, they've never been a pet and must learn all sorts of new life skills. Some folks don't have the patience for that or push a dog too fast, too soon and become frustrated. They need a firm, fair, consistent leader. Fourth - in my opinion, greyhounds do best in a home with at least one other greyhound. I love when people come back for a second because I think that makes the greyhounds happier.

Can most people own a greyhound? yeah...your average pet person can own a greyhound. Once you get past home acclimation, they are pretty easy to manage. And maybe one of the few breeds that get easier to own/manage the more you have.
 

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Bully breeds always get a bad rap, they are not a style of dog for anyone but the people who have them are die hard. ; )


Malis are amazing dogs, I swear they are so driven and so focused. I've seen them at the local sch cub and they are amazing... Thats a breed I was considering but they can be far too intense for me.

Cardis are so freakin cute :) I've never meet a cardigan welsh corgi in person, just pems. Collies aren't very popular in this area, I'm not entirely sure why.

let me clarify on Border Collies/ BC mixes :) They are NOT the dog for just anybody (although my parents is not the typical BC at alll) but the people I have suggested a BC to were all people I ride horses with. I think they make an ideal farm/horse dog. They excell at keeping the barn orderly, chase the geese/birds off the property and you can just tell they love doing it. :) BCs NEED a job, without it they destroy people and homes. @[email protected] (If I was that smart I'd probably have the same problem :p)



Oh come on now Lovemygreys, you're not being fair :p Greyhounds are a "perfect" dog as they come. Low shedding, good with kids, good with MOST pets, easily trained, low energy when you want them to be or willing to play when you're ready... Thats just not fair Plus they're like potatoe chips, my friend Rob got one and now he's adopting his third ;) You'd never know a dog lived there until you go to sit on the couch and you see a brindle and a black greyhound staring up at you in their quiet, majestic way as to say "please mame, please don't sit on me. I'd rather not move".
 

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I lived with Strauss for three weeks and I'd still take a Strauss puppy in a heartbeat. :p
You don't count! You're crazy! xD!!!!

Overdrive, sure, but the willingness to work makes up for it. <3s Strauss
That's why I keep him xD Well, that and his awesome way with babies, lol. He appreciates that you <3 him. Somebody has to :D
 

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I understand where everyone is coming from here, but let's be honest - the phrase, "I love my <Insert Breed>, but they're not for everyone" can be said by anyone about any dog. There is no breed that fits everyone, and in many cases no dog (regardless of the breed) would be a good fit. This is the life of a dog owner - showing people how great it can be to have a dog, but cautioning people of the negative aspects as well and hope they make informed decisions.
 
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