very good perception Eris13021, I should have realized it would go over most heads. Everytime PIT BULL is mentioned, as well as BYB, the special defence crowd go into high gear mode. Try and stay coool
Now as far as the kid banging those poor dogs on the head, how long do you think a PIT BULL will take it? We do not know what that kid in the post was doing before the attack? Good question you think spic1?
answer: Depends on how well the owner worked with the the dog, ah yes! its the owners fault if the dog gets p--sed off and retaliates. True, but you must consider the inherited genetic temperment of each breed, and potential thereof.
If it had been written better I possibly would have understood it. I meant no offense.
How long a Pit Bull would take it, if we look in general probably a very long time. How well the owner worked with the dog is BS to me, that goes out the window in such a situation. Who works a dog to be beat in the head or "be nice" when being beat.
To answer APBT specifically it does break down to genetics. APBT the temperament is to be submissive and take it. Most would probably lay there and take it, others will walk away. Though not run, flight like the dogs described of your neighbor. They walk away to stop it but not out of pain/fear. Some will take the injustice of children as attention, they are more then willing as its not a bother, they can't help it because they love people so much. If we consider that they will take harsh beatings for life without ever defending themselves we'd have to see some bangs from a child as insignificant.
That is what I love about dogs, especially APBT, very resilent. However we can't just look at breed temperament, as not all breeds fit proper temperament. (obviously as one just attacked a child) APBT should take it forever. But it depends on that individual APBT. There are breed descriptions but those are generalizations and standards doesn't mean all dogs of a given breed will fit. Some APBT could be intolerant and tire quickly growl or bite. Others might not have the confident temperament and will run away and try to hide from the kid or kids in general.
I only think it is the owner's fault that they don't control their kid/dog. That goes no matter the breed. I know too many parents which let their kids torment their pets and when the dog bites or always growls at all kids its only the dog which is scolded. We can find dogs of any breed that will bite once they've finally reached their breaking point, as they are just animals after all. Especially one of such type that runs away, if they are where they can't get away it could mean growling or lead to a fear aggressive attack.
Some breeds by breed alone seem to be less tolerant in general. Though people at times really hate to hear the genetics. They want to believe "it's all in how you raise them" BS.
National Stockdog Registry Aussies (working cattle dogs) are pretty persistent "heel nippers" so I can understand some concern, but mostly, these dogs, properly bred, will drown you with tongue-baths.
The same is true of APBT (the part following but mostly) however we see what bad breeding and careless owners combined has brought about. I do of course hope Aussie will not become a breed known for many bites or attacks. My point is only that popularity, bad breeders and bad owners = unstable and dangerous dogs. So there could possibly be a rise. As of late I've heard more so of Aussie attacking/fighting with other dogs rather then too many bites on humans.
Zr. I have never been interested in the PB or bull dog line, so that explains much of my ignorance of the breed, but that said I would not turn any dog away in need and I was in the position to help.
I watch some of the dog shows on TV, my wife loves them, and when it comes to the APBT, now this dog does not look anything like Michael Vicks dogs. Correct me but they do not seem to have over sized heads, and as broad a chest as the fighting dogs do, am I correct at that? For example Darkmoons dog does not look anything like the dogs in the best of breed APBT.
The pit bull many times shown on TV dog shows is usually American Staffordshire Terrier. Which are AKC dogs, APBTs were registered with AKC and the name changed. The AmStaff just as the APBT has some different looks, sometimes they look much alike but many times it is easy to tell by looks if they are APBT or AST. Vicks dogs had a range of looks from small to large dogs and builds. Over sized heads and broad chest, I believe you are thinking of American Bullies maybe? Which is not a fighting breed but bred of course for big head and chest. Darkmoons dog is from a shelter, though he is lovely looking, typically your not going to find a dog that meets up with "best of breed" in the shelter. Sure some fighting dogs might not have balance, but that would really not be the majority to be over sized in areas as they are not bred for that.
I realize this is just one fighting dog but oversized head and broad chest, I think not.
Of course you can't really tell if a dog is a fighting dog just by looking at its build either.
You can google American Bully to see if that is the same or if I'm way off.
