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Sometimes bitches will lift their legs also. LOL The worst one we ever had was our spayed mutt. She was alpha of the farm and everyone knew it, she'd get into peeing wars with the males. :)

Almost a decade of intact dogs, never had any problems. Mine are well trained, too.
 

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I think some breeds are more likely to mark, and certain individuals are more likely to mark, regardless of breed. My grandpa's Lab (the one Hulk mentioned, that hobbled a few miles in his old age to see a bitch in heat, same as the one I mentioned who had a marking problem) never marked inside, but if you tried to take him for a walk he would, very literally, stop every 5 feet to pee on something. I don't know where he stored all that pee, LOL. It was seriously annoying to try to walk with him.

Barbara Woodhouse (old-school trainer that wrote some books in the 60s and 70s, that I read about 15 years ago) had some very interesting idea in her books. She said that there are some "oversexed" male dogs who absolutely NEED to be neutered, and some who just aren't as obsessed. Now, she felt that all male dogs not being used in a breeding program should be neutered, because she thought that spaying was too dangerous to be done routinely (maybe it was in the 60s and 70s, I dunno), and she thought that the females shouldn't have to put up with a lot of males hounding them whenever they were in heat, but her ideas about oversexed dogs were interesting reading. For me anyway.
 

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Thnx. For all of the replies. The only thing I am now concerned about is him marking, I read that some of you have intact dogs and they were fine. And others said they marked. I just don't want it him marking in the house. But thankyou for all the replies. I still have over a year to decide
 

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Very good thread. I just saw my cockapoo lift his leg outside for the first time and I started thinking about neutering now (he's 6.5 months). I was thinking of delaying it until he was a year old so he could have a chance to develop and mature intact. But I'm still getting a lot of conflicting information on what the added benefits really are, specifically for a small breed dog - he's only 8-9lbs, probably won't get much bigger.The one thing I DO NOT want to deal with is marking inside the house. He's perfectly paper-trained right now. I'd hate to see him break my trust.
 

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Intact males are fairly prone to testicular cancer. Goldens as a breed have a high rate of cancer in general, so it's worth neutering him to remove a possibility of getting one kind of cancer.
 

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What should i do?
Unless you intend to breed your dog - yes you should have him neutered.

IMHO, since there are so many goldens around and not all are good ones, only quality show line or quality working line or quality dual-purpose line dogs with good or better OFA and CERF certifications should be bred. But that is just my opinion.

I'm not just picking on goldens - I'd say the same for other breeds as well.

In any case, as already mentioned wait until he is at least a year old if not older. Most good breeders will insist on that anyway as part of their contract.

That means you take the responsibility of keeping him from getting at any females in season from the time he reaches sexual maturity - which will be about nine months.


Also do males usually mark if not fixed?
Entire males in general will have a tendency to mark but some can be trained not to at least to some extent. How sucessful that is depends on the biddability of the dog.

If you wait as recommended, the marking behavior will already be established. It won't be automatically ended by the neutrering.

However, goldens are usually very biddable, so this should not be a problem for you. With other breeds, especially "difficult" ones, you are generally stuck with at least some remnant of marking behavior if you wait until after they are sexually mature.
 

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Sometimes bitches will lift their legs also.
there is one female dog at the DP. her and Blaze get in to pee wars it is way to funny.
Intact males are fairly prone to testicular cancer. Goldens as a breed have a high rate of cancer in general, so it's worth neutering him to remove a possibility of getting one kind of cancer.
And testicular cancer is a quick fix. neutering also has cons and makes a dog more suseptable to other diseases, worse then when he was intact.

IMO if it aint broke dont fix it falls here for me. I wont fix my dog unless.
A) he comes like that from a shelter.
B) I have no choice through the breeder. and depending on the breed, I hope the breeder would let me wait a year or 2 for neuter.
C) Medical reason it needs to be done to save his life.

In reality I should have a medical mess of a dog. from terrible breeding, brought up in a puppy mill, taken from litter at probably 5 weeks, to make sure he makes it to the pet store in a good amount of time. lives in a nasty dingy pet store, finds me, no health care or training done to the dog until i open my eyes get a job and take responsibility for the "family" dog 9about 2 years after the fact we bought him). now he is all mine. 100% healthy aside from a heart murmur, wonderful companion, trained like crazy. just becuase he is intact doesnt mean he will die, get sick, kill another dog, or run off from me.


dogs live to 15 with no issues being intact 50 years ago, whats the major difference now? people are to gung ho surgery this.
 

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dogs live to 15 with no issues being intact 50 years ago, whats the major difference now? people are to gung ho surgery this.
50 years ago the shelter overpopulation problem was far worse than it is now. The main reason behind spay/neuter is population control.
 
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