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I switched the dogs over from Canidae to raw food about a week ago. They got chicken wings the first few nights, then chicken drumsticks since then, because I read that you should only use one type of meat to start with.

They did had some dehydrated chicken liver for treats yesterday.

They both LOVE it, but I've woken up to Obi vomiting in his crate twice in the last week. The first time he had vomited up food, this morning there was just some foam. He hardly ever vomits, and hasn't vomited in his crate since he was a tiny puppy.

Just wondering if this is to be expected after a sudden change in diet? He's always had soft poo, no matter what food he's been on (BARF. Nutro, Canidae), and it's still looking soft to me. So no big change there.
 

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Are you only feeding them once a day? The foam could indicate an empty stomach. With starting raw, you want to break the daily among into 2-3 meals a day, since it goes through them a lot faster.
 

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Yeah, I've always only fed them in the evening, around 10 pm. Both times he's vomited has been around 7 am.

So does feeding raw mean I always have to feed two meals a day?
 

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You don't always have to feed more than once a day but it's good for transitioning to do 2 or 3 meals. Dogs digest raw a lot faster than kibble as well so they will feel empty a lot faster.

I recommend cutting out any treats until they are further along in transition as well.
 

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For now I would feed twice a day. Tummy upsets that go out either end are expected during the first week or two when switching to raw as their system adjusts. How much are you feeding? Guideline is 2-3% of their ideal weight per day, but being little guys they may need slightly more.
 

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They've been getting a chicken drumstick each per day. I weighed one of the drumsticks today and that's actually more than what they should eat in a day.

So I guess I'll give them half of a drumstick twice a day instead..?

And why cut out treats? I know liver isn't ideal in their first week of being fed raw, but I needed Obi to perform a trick for a practical assessment and there were a lot of distractions... I do a lot of training with them, and with Obi being reactive on walks I have to carry treats with me...
 

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It is better for the gut switching gears to keep to the program. You could turn your schedule upside down and do walks at one of the meal times and use something like raw ground chicken in a tube you squeeze so she can lick it out or cook some of her chicken and use for treats instead. Chicken breast is super for this, not greasy and can be shredded into tiny bits.

At the very least don't use anything but meats. No liver, no grainy treats.

Agree, feed twice a day for now and they probably need more like 3% their ideal adult bodyweight than the 1.5% medium sized senior Max needs.

Cross your fingers. Max is far less reactive on raw than on kibble. We are notified that the mailman is coming by rather than him screaming we are being attacked. It may be because dog reactive Sassy is gone but he no longer lunges and barks at other dogs either.
 

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Right, I will get some chicken breast then. Thanks :)

I hadn't considered that Obi would be less reactive on raw. I'm mostly switching because Pixie has constant ear infections, and I wanted to see if raw would make a difference. Would be interesting if Obi gets better too.
 

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Got my fingers crossed for you!

Since no other dog has his back these days I don't know if it is his good nature, the raw helping keep blood sugar on an even keel or not being part of a pack but walks have been very peaceful for 3-4 years now. I don't expect him to be able to brush by other dogs in public but he can at agility events and no lunging for ages and ages. Polite to small dogs and hides behind my back with big rude puppies.

Raw helped a number of things I hadn't even thought to be issues. It has been amazing for Max.
 

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Well, Obi vomited up a fish hook this morning. Maybe that's what he's been trying to get rid of all along... He's a very lucky dog, there was no blood or anything, so it seems he escaped injury, somehow.

And he does seem less reactive now :)
 
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