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Hi guys, I have a six month old shih tzu and when I first got him four months ago he learned where to poo AND pee very easily and very fast but when I got dog pads, which are much smaller and less thick (I used to use underpads) it?s like I have to train him all over again and this time it?s harder. I try to praise him as much as I can with treats and stuff when he does potty in the right place but it?s like he forgets all over again and refuses to go near the pads, even if I call him, unless he needs to poo. And I know that pads are ?unnatural? and I should take him outside instead but I live in a three story apartment so I can?t really do that. Whenever I leave my room I make sure we go straight to the pads but then he just sits there confused even if he smells it. Then after a while when we leave that area he decides to pee on the side of the wall or somewhere else. It?s been really difficult for me because I don?t always have the free time to supervise him and I?m considering just taking him to a dog trainer if he really won?t learn. I?ve heard it can take puppies to almost a year to learn how to fully be house trained but I live with strict people that expect a young puppy, that doesn?t know any better, to be perfect and automatically smart. Which is ridiculous. Any tips on how to teach a stubborn pup where to go?
 

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At about 6 months old, it seems lots of male dogs start marking. It's a natural behavior and there's not much you can do about it, and that may make pad training difficult. They often mistake carpets, rugs, or pillows for pads, and some dogs just never really learn that this one specific piece of material in this spot here is where I have to go. It's kind of a difficult concept for dogs. Why can't you go back to using the pads you were using in the first place that he was successful on?

If you insist on pad training, you're going to have to make time to supervise, or crate him when you can't so he doesn't go in the wrong place. Make sure to take him to his pad frequently (like, every 20-30 minutes), and praise and reward for going in the correct spot. If you catch him having an accident, interrupt with a word like "Oops!" and rush him to his pad. You don't want to scold him, as that might teach him that going in front of you is bad, and then he'll sneak off and pee. When you can't 100% supervise, crate him.

Is there a certain reason why you can't take him outside, other than it being inconvenient for you? Honestly, it sounds like it's going to be easier to train him to go only outside, especially with the marking and your roommates. Plenty of people live in multilevel apartments and successfully potty train their dogs, it just takes a bit of forethought and time.

Make sure to clean up any old accidents with an enzymatic cleaner like Nature's Miracle to eliminate the scent.
 

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I pee pad trained my havanese he goes outside as well as on the pad
I do have to keep him out of the kitchen and bedroom or he will try to mark the curtains and corners he has done this since about 6 months old
If I can't watch him I put him in his play pen
I contain him with a baby gate to the living room still So he doesn't have full run of the house yet
He hasn't had an accident in months he's now 1 yr old mostly potties outside but if he can't hold it he will pee on the pad rarely does he poo on it though
You have to always be watching until he's 100% potty trained
try to keep him from making mistakes the more mistakes he makes the harder it will be to get him to understand what you want
If you can't watch him he should be contained in a playpen until he goes potty every time where you want him to go
I do not have any carpet but my sister has a rug sprocket will try to go on that I don't think they know the difference between rugs and pads so if your house has rugs or carpet it will be much more difficult to pad train him imo



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