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Need some input please. Sorry this is long!

I am picking up my first every puppy (or dog) on thursday. He is going to the vet on Firday for his check up. He is an english cocker spaniel.

He will be 9 weeks on Sunday, and just got his first vaccine at 8 weeks. So he won't get his 2nd lot until he is 12 weeks.

Now the puppy classes I wish to put him into (it's the best reputation, huge area, does all agility, obedience training the works) has classes starting this Monday, basic puppy socialisation stuff. Or I would have to wait until my pup was 15 weeks old, for the next class, as it says on their webpage - the usual about needing to have his 2nd lot of shots before he can start class.

I realise it's within (just) the socialisation period of 17 weeks.

My quandary is this I e-mailed the school and the insturctor to see if there would be any more classes. And she surprisingly said if I would bring in proof when I got the 2nd shots so I could start this Monday before I get the 2nd lot of vaccines (4 days after I get him, he will be 9 weeks) she prefers earlier the better, and hasn't had any problems health wise, re other dogs in the center.

Is this wise as it seems to go against every advice I have read or seen. But I don't want to wait too long?:confused:

My dream (and yes I have no idea what the temperment of my dog will be) is for him to be a therapy dog. I want to start to take him to basic obedience and then advanced obedience after the puppy class, so that might be taken into consideration?

As it is vital for a therapy dog (any dog!) to be well socialised in that small period of time until the close at 17 weeks.

This is the biggest and best facility. The other 2 in my area sort of melds puppy socialisation and obedience into one, and don't have any other basic obedience. I like the program in the one I want to go into.

petsmart seems to have a 10ft square area which is tiny for their classes which I don't like.

So do I take the puppy now to my "optimum" place?
Still go to place but wait till he is 15 weeks old?
Go to petsmart for basic puppy class then go back to other for obedience class?

I am trying to weigh up the advantages of good class and early socialisation to the health of the pup and the risk to him, not having 2nd vaccines.

I know it's not optimum to do this but what exactly are the risk of him picking up something at an inside dog center?
 

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We've been running puppy kindergarten classes at our dog club for over 50 years for puppies from 7-14 weeks (1st set of shots) and have never had a problem.

I would NOT bring a puppy into Petco or Petsmart however. The dogs that come through there on a daily basis may not be vaccinated.
 

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I got Chloe at 16 weeks, and she started puppy classes at 18 weeks old. She has no socialization issues. She loves adults, kids, big dogs, small dogs, etc. It was never an issue for her being older. She is very well adjusted and is actually more into big dogs than smaller ones!

That's just our experience, though.

Good luck with your pup!
 

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We've been running puppy kindergarten classes at our dog club for over 50 years for puppies from 7-14 weeks (1st set of shots) and have never had a problem.

I would NOT bring a puppy into Petco or Petsmart however. The dogs that come through there on a daily basis may not be vaccinated.
Thanks for your reply especially as you are seeing this from an experts point of view.

It just threw me as their website seemed very strict saying 2nd lot are needed, then this e-mail which said it didn't. So I was beginning to think she was just after my money. And if she allowed my dog in with only 1 set of vaccines what other dogs are in?

But you saying this well it seems to support her. :) And seems common practice.
It's just hard as reading stuff seems to be extremes and it's hard for a novice like me to get a balance.

I don't know my area re vaccinated dogs and unvaccinated dogs and how many cases of different puppy diseases there are - is there any website to find this out?
 

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What general area are you in if you are in the US. I know in the northeast while parvo is definitely around it is not the same issue it is as if you are in south.

Personally speaking I agree with TooneyDogs. I started my one pup in classes before she had her second shot and no problems. Actually, she just got her second shot today :). My other girl had her 2nd but it just happened to work out that way. If she hadn't I would have started her anyway.
 

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half (at least)of the parvo cases happen in vax'd dogs. If you look around you should be able to find some info...

unvaxed dogs don't scare me much, if vaxs are supposed to "protect" the dog, then why do people panic and run the other way when they see a unvaxxed dog approach? LOL


Mine go out before their second distemper/parvo shot. No trouble here...
 

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What general area are you in if you are in the US. I know in the northeast while parvo is definitely around it is not the same issue it is as if you are in south.

Personally speaking I agree with TooneyDogs. I started my one pup in classes before she had her second shot and no problems. Actually, she just got her second shot today :). My other girl had her 2nd but it just happened to work out that way. If she hadn't I would have started her anyway.
I live outside Seattle.

thanks for you and txcollie replies (I didn't know that about it starting in vaccinated dogs!). I honestly thought people would have been coming on here screaming at me at being an irresponsible owner for even thinking about it!
You all have given me some reassurance and I have contacted the class and going to start on Monday (that is if he has settled in by then).
 
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