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Gizmo is 9 weeks old. Is that too early to potty train a puppy?

He poops and pees everywhere in my house. I try to use techniques like making him smell it, scolding him, then taking him to the potty pad and telling him to go "here". I wonder if anyone else has better ideas?
 

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rule of thumb is that a puppy can hodl it for one hour per how many months old they are. so he could hold it approximatly 2 hours. But I would take him out every 30 mintues outside. When he goes verbal praise along with a treat. Keep doing this and he will start to get the idea. Also crate training is a really good traing tool! scolding will only make things worse when it comes to potty training
 

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I'm not sure if I know what crate training is or how to do it?
Feel bad for locking him up so I let him roam around.

But don't think it is easy to get a puppy trained to walk to the potty pad and do his thing.
 

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I'm not sure if I know what crate training is or how to do it?
Feel bad for locking him up so I let him roam around.

But don't think it is easy to get a puppy trained to walk to the potty pad and do his thing.
Potty pad!!! why are you not taking him outside??

Crate trainign is fairly easy. If you allow him to roam you will have accidents all over (as you said) and he can chew things up! First off you need him to see the crate is a fun and safe place. Reward him with a treat and verbal praise everytime he goes in it. You can also start feeding him his dog food in there. Then you keep him in there at night and during the day when you are not home. When you are home you can also keep him in there, then every 30 minutes take him outside to potty! When you are taking him oustside say"lets go potty". Dog normally will not "go" where they sleep or eat, hence the crate. You also only want the crate large enough for him to turn around and lay down, no more than that much room
 

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I guess I jumped the gun and thought I could train him to go inside on the potty pad.

I need to get a crate. Smaller the better?
 

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Normally 8 week to 9 week puppies need to go potty every 15-20 minutes when active.

I skipped the potty pads with my 8 week old puppy. She is now 8.5 weeks old and nows how to go to the door and scratch at it when she needs to go(I didn't even teach her) If when they need to go you walk them to the dood(not pick them up and bring them outside) but walk them to the door, say let's go potty, go outside and let them do their business, then come back inside, they learn really fast.

I don't really use the kennel all that much, although I still am crate training her, it's easier to just keep an eye on her and take her out every 15 minutes if she doesn't go to the door.
 

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Pepper, my puppy goes quite frequently. Pees about 30 mins- 1 hr and poos maybe 4 times a day. But it is all random, I see no signs that tell me. I can't keep going out him all the time and when I do take him out, he does not go.
 

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Are you on a feeding schedule?
I feed 3 times a day, when we wake up, around 2-3 in the afternoon, and around 6-7 at night. I stop giving water an hour or so before bed, and give ice.

If there are no signs, then you need to take him out with a timer or alarm. I just watch the clock and every 15-20 minutes take her out if she doesn't go to the door. In the morning I stay outside with her for 10 minutes or so letting her do everything she needs to do. Say I'm upstairs, she won't go run down the stairs to the door, she doesn't have that much control over her bladder, so if I wait to long, she's going to pee on the floor. So it's up to you to take her out at set times, not wait for signs. If you don't catch her going to the bathroom, don't correct her, she won't understand what your doing. If you do catch her, clap your hands and say NO! And immediately go outside to show the pup that outside is good, inside is bad.

Puppies don't give many signs, a lot of times they just stop playing and pee haha.
 

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I feed him 3 times a day, but not consistent. Once in the morning (between 9-11am) once in the afternoon (between 1-4pm) and once at night (between 6-10pm).

Ice?

So after he goes to the bathroom, take him outside? It's not really like he can go again right? Just gives the puppy a correlation between going to the bathroom and outdoors correct?

I do not crate him either. I let him sleep on his doggy bed at the bottom of my bed. But when I wake up, there are poop and pee stains everywhere.
 

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Gives them liquid and cools them off without filling up their bladder really fast like water.

So after he goes to the bathroom, take him outside? It's not really like he can go again right? Just gives the puppy a correlation between going to the bathroom and outdoors correct?
What? haha Just take him out every 15 minutes, it'll make everything easier. If he doesn't go every 15, try every 20, but if he messes in the house, then go back to taking him out every 15 and just stand outside for a few minutes. When he goes, start to add a key word, like go potty, etc..and give lots of praise.

I do not crate him either. I let him sleep on his doggy bed at the bottom of my bed. But when I wake up, there are poop and pee stains everywhere.
You should keep him in a pen with a crate if you don't want to crate. Puppies can only hold their bladder a few hours during the night. I got lucky and my puppy can sleep 8-9 hours through the night, but most will not! You need to be getting up a few times a night. Sometimes we go to bed at 12-1 and I set an alarm for 6, take her out, and go back to bed. Some people need to set one for every 3-4 hours, or less.
 

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So there is no trick of the trades. Just a lot of patience, and spending time with the puppy outdoors until they know that they are suppose to go outside and not indoors?

I hope he catches on quick? He is 9 weeks old. I wonder how fast or slow puppies take to learn?
 

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I feed him 3 times a day, but not consistent. Once in the morning (between 9-11am) once in the afternoon (between 1-4pm) and once at night (between 6-10pm).

Ice?

So after he goes to the bathroom, take him outside? It's not really like he can go again right? Just gives the puppy a correlation between going to the bathroom and outdoors correct?

I do not crate him either. I let him sleep on his doggy bed at the bottom of my bed. But when I wake up, there are poop and pee stains everywhere.
The more consistent you are with a feeding schedule the elimination schedule will also be more consistent. What goes in must come out and you will see a definite pattern to the time it takes your dog to digest food and pass urine from water he drank.

Ice is to lick after you have taken the "bowl" of water up an hour or two before bedtime so that night time outings become less frequent.

Buy a good alarm clock or kitchen timer that you can clip on your belt. Do not let the puppy go for more than an hour to start without taking the dog outside to eliminate. if you train the dog to eliminate on puppy pads in the house then the dog thinks the house is fair game, all of it, not just the puppy pad. So you are in effect, training the puppy to eliminate in the house.

Buy a crate and use it. Buy a crate big enough for your dog when it is full grown. When full grown your dog should only be in a moving vehicle when it is in the crate. I prefer the hardshell plastic airline crates for that reason. But some people like to have the wire collapsile crates instead. Your choice. Then for the puppy put a cardboard box or plastic storage box in the back of the crate so that there is only enough room for the pup to stand, turn around, and lay down. In other words, if he messes in the crate he will have to lay in it. And dogs really do not like to mess in their dens. Then establish your feeding schedule. Give plenty of water with meals and sort of limit water between meals unless you have exercised the dog or played hard.

Schedule should look something like this:

7AM...get up and immediately take puppy outside
7:30...feed/water puppy and take outside within 30 minutes
8:30...take puppy outside
9:30...take puppy outside
10:30 take puppy outside
11:30 take puppy outside
noon...feed/water...take outside within 30 minutes
1:30...take puppy outside
2:30 take puppy outside
and so on for the ENTIRE 24 hours, all through the night, set an alarm clock. Do not wait for the puppy to whine to go out. That is teaching them that whining gets them out of the crate.

So, when you aren't outside with your puppy then you need to completely supervise the dog, with both eyes, at all times. Tie the leash to your belt loop so that the puppy cannot wander out of your sight. You wouldn't let a 2 year old child wander around your house unsupervised, neither shoould you let a newborn puppy do so. Otherwise put the puppy in the crate. Puppies need a lot of sleep anyway and like a quiet place of their own. You can put a t-shirt or something similar of your own (has your scent on it) in the crate with the puppy. Within a few days to a week the puppy will know that the crate is it's place to be and accept it. For the first few days the puppy may whine and may carry on beyond your imagination. Don't give in. When you go to bed you put the puppy in the crate and do not take the puppy out until the alarm goes off unless the puppy seems to be in serious distress (think smoke or blood).

When you take your dog outside to eliminate be sure to have special treats that are only given with potty success. You need tohave it ready to give wile the puppy is squatting. The INSTANT that the puppy stands up you praise like he just dug up money and give the food reward. If your dog is not successful when you take it outside then you bring the dog back in the house, put in the crate or supervise completely, and try again in 15 minutes...especially if after a few days of forming a pattern you KNOW that he has to go. Freedom is a reward for acceptable behavior. It is a priilege, not a right, to have free run of the house and must be earned.
Feed on a schedule
Take out to eliminate on a schedule
Completely supervise the puppy 24/7...think of it as a toddler child that someone has left with you...same type of supervision needed
 

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briteday,

Thanks for the detailed reply. Having a puppy is a lot of work but I know in the end, it will be rewarding. Does taking them out every one hour show them that they need to go outside only?

by the way, do you know anything about different brands of flea killer? My puppy has fleas and I bought some Banfield line called "FrontShield". I started another thread.
 

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I would just like to point out that making him smell it and scolding him isn't a good idea. It will just make him afraid to go in front of you which will make it ten times harder to potty train. Instead watch him like a hawk, if you see him start to go pick him up immediately and take him to the appropriate place keep him there until he finishes. If he has an accident that you find later, clean it up and deal with it, but don't scold him for it. By that point he won't associate the punishment with the action of going. Wash, rinse, and repeat.
 
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