[Carolyn1980]

Hello!! Does anyone have any experience with poogle? Beagle/poodle mix. There doesn’t seem to be an awful lot of information on them. Are they a good family pet? Also I’m slightly worried that the beagle is renowned for having quite a doggy smell and worried this will be the same for a poogle. I’m new to the group and new to owning a dog so any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

 

[stbob]

i have absolutely zero experience with a poogle. As a matter of fact, this is the first time i ever heard of it. I actually had to google the poogle just to make sure you wasn't jesting. Alas i did find some basic info on the poogle and it appears they would make a wonderful family pet. Surely someone with greater knowledge will be along to delve deeper into the bells and whistles of this fascinating breed. And por favor post a few pics...

 

[Lillith]

A Poogle is a designer dog, which is basically a mixed breed dog marketed as fashionable by disreputable breeders who charge an exorbitant price for them. They are not a breed in themselves. Poodles and Beagles are vastly different breeds on their own, so it would be nearly impossible to accurately predict their temperament or coat type. They could favor the poodle, favor the beagle, or fall somewhere in between.

If you want that poodle coat type, just go with a poodle. Miniature poodles are similar in size to a beagle if you like that size, too.

If you're looking at breeders, please feel free to ask the forum for help. There are many breeders out there who are excellent at making themselves look reputable when they're fronting for a puppy mill (where many of these designer dogs come from). There are a number of experienced dog owners on the forum who can help you spot a disreputable breeder a mile away.

 

[Carolyn1980]

This is the little guy I’ve fallen in love with 🥰

 

[parus]

That's a very sweet picture of what I'm sure is a very sweet puppy. All puppies are sweet at that age. That puppy is going to grow up. How he grows up to be depends primarily on the genetics of his parents. Will he be able to run and play freely, or will he be in chronic pain from joint issues? Will he be your happy-go-lucky companion, or will he be so anxious he snaps at strangers, visitors, even you? Will he get along with other dogs or will he pick fights and potentially get himself injured? Will he live a good long life or will his heart fail at age 7? Will his retinas atrophy over time, causing him to go blind? Will he have healthy skin and hair, or will his sebaceous glands be perpetually inflamed? Will he maintain his healthy, happy mind throughout life, or will he develop a seizure disorder that picks away at his cognition every time he seizes? These are all things that are largely already decided, already in his genes, traits selected for or against by which dogs the breeder chose to combine.

Have you met the parents? What do you know about the grandparents? Did they undergo screenings for joint and heart health? Have they tested negative for being carriers of common genetic disorders? What are their temperaments like? Why did the breeder decide on this particular pairing of a poodle and a beagle?

 

[BKaymuttleycrew]

That puppy certainly is adorable, but are you sure it's a Beagle/Poodle cross? I will admit to not being the most knowledgeable about a lot of breeds, but his coloring & coat don't look anything at all like I would think you'd get from that cross...

 

[DaySleepers]

I agree, that looks like merle to me and neither beagles nor poodles naturally come in merle, so there's another breed in there somewhere. It might be a couple generations back, but it's hard to say. There is a chance it's blue ticking, but usually that's a more even pattern rather than splotchy. Is this pup supposed to be a first generation cross (pure poodle x pure beagle), or are one or both parents also poodle/beagle crosses?

 

[Carolyn1980]

I’ve seen all the paperwork’s on both parents and the screening shows no genetic problems and both had a full bill of health. The mum is a pocket beagle and the dad is a Merle grey toy poodle- both registered. From what we discussed she bred the two with them been a similar size. I’m fairly new to all this doggy language so hope I’ve passed and answered correctly!!

 

[DaySleepers]

Ah, I see! The toy poodle definitely has another breed in its pedigree - it may be a few generations back, but merle does not naturally exist in the poodle gene pool, so something had to be added in at some point to produce that color. While that doesn't mean that he's an unhealthy or unfit dog, I do personally find it a bit dishonest that people use loopholes to register such dogs as purebred with the AKC. Perhaps a 'your mileage may vary' kind of scenario! I don't know as much about beagles, so I won't speak to pocket beagles. Do you remember what the parents were screened for?

It's going to be pretty hard to predict how much beagle 'muskiness' he'll inherit from his mom. If the breeder has worked with mom's lines for a while, you can ask about how strongly mom smells compared to other beagles, and if other beagles in her lineage have that classic, strong houndy odor. If the breeder doesn't know much about mom's lines, you can still ask about mom, but it won't be as good an indicator.

 

[parus]

Merle poodles can't be registered, so someone's lying to you, I think.

 

[Carolyn1980]

Sorry I don’t think this is the right forum for me. Thanks everyone for the helpful advise. It’s maybe just a bit too full on and opinionated for me. I just wanted a bit of friendly advice. Don’t want to offend and upset anyone and equally I don’t want to spoil my experience of getting a new puppy. I don’t mind whether the dogs are registered or not- I’ve checked the health of both parents but either way this pup has been produced and he’s going to be coming to the most loving family home and I’ll do the best I possibly can for him. Thanks again for all the positive responses xx

 

[parus]

How much are you paying these people, out of curiosity?

I do hope all works out well with the puppy if you decide to go ahead with the purchase. Definitely get dog health insurance, though, and educate yourself about the potential health issues associated with the merle gene, including drug sensitivities. And please don't breed the puppy - his records are faked in at least one way, so you'd be perpetuating the issue yourself.

 

[Carolyn1980]

We’ve already sorted out pet insurance and a pet plan. He will not be bred. He’s going to be a much loved well looked after family pet. I’m not going to put the cost on here as what ever I put someone will have something to say I’m sure. We was looking at dogs from a rescue centre but unfortunately they won’t let dogs go to families with children under 10. When you get a dog in this process the majority of the time you don’t know their breed or background and it still wouldn’t bother me. When I was growing up you generally didn’t know what mix you where getting and my dogs lived happy long pain free lives! I appreciate I opened my message with asking for any advise or information but was really hoping for a lot my friendly, positive advice. Thanks for all that gave that xx