[Mary Sousa]

Hello there, I just adopted what was said to be Pom. At further look with friends, he looks like mix. He weighs 4.4 pounds at about 8 weeks..supposedly. Although still has slight tint of blue to his eyes. So could be younger.
My friend says his paws are a bit big for pure Pom. And his tail a little short for one too. Also seems too heavy at such young age for pure one. I love the idea of mix and am intrigued to know what he’s mixed with. He is the blacker of the two pups in photo but I show both so you may get a better idea from 2.
Thank you

 

[LeoRose]

Was he sold as a pure-bred Pom with registration papers? Is so, then I would seriously doubt his parentage, and would suggest that you request the breeder do a DNA test. His face doesn't look like a typical Pom, not does his coat.

That said, he's a cutie.

 

[DaySleepers]

Yeah, have to agree that this doesn't look like a pure pom puppy. They both look quite large compared to the people holding them, and the expression isn't right. Hard to say what they might be mixed with (all puppies look a bit like fluffy potatoes at this age), but I'd doubt they're pure poms and they're definitely not bred to the breed standard. 4.4lbs is within the adult weight range for to-standard pomeranians. He's a cutie, for sure, but he won't grow up to look like your average pom.

 

[Mary Sousa]

Was he sold as a pure-bred Pom with registration papers? Is so, then I would seriously doubt his parentage, and would suggest that you request the breeder do a DNA test. His face doesn't look like a typical Pom, not does his coat.

That said, he's a cutie.

They said he was Pom but no papers. I’m fine with mix just wondering what it might be? Poodle, collie, cattle mix maybe.

 

[DaySleepers]

Going to be hard to even guess at this age, since so many distinctive breed traits (aside from color) aren't obvious until the dog matures. You could try for a DNA test - Embark is my favorite, and you get some genetic health testing on top of the breed estimation - and that'll give you the most likely breed mix. Even those can only test back a few generations, so you can't use them to guarantee any dog is purebred, but the big ones (Embark, Wisdom) are pretty reliable for a rough estimate of what's in a mixed breed's recent genetic history.

 

[Mary Sousa]

Going to be hard to even guess at this age, since so many distinctive breed traits (aside from color) aren't obvious until the dog matures. You could try for a DNA test - Embark is my favorite, and you get some genetic health testing on top of the breed estimation - and that'll give you the most likely breed mix. Even those can only test back a few generations, so you can't use them to guarantee any dog is purebred, but the big ones (Embark, Wisdom) are pretty reliable for a rough estimate of what's in a mixed breed's recent genetic history.

Thank you!

 

[Ddbigmak1]

Hello there, I just adopted what was said to be Pom. At further look with friends, he looks like mix. He weighs 4.4 pounds at about 8 weeks..supposedly. Although still has slight tint of blue to his eyes. So could be younger.
My friend says his paws are a bit big for pure Pom. And his tail a little short for one too. Also seems too heavy at such young age for pure one. I love the idea of mix and am intrigued to know what he’s mixed with. He is the blacker of the two pups in photo but I show both so you may get a better idea from 2.
Thank you
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He is very cute but I’m an owner of a pure Pom. Yours doesn’t look exactly like a pure Pom. But either way enjoy him. He is cute!

 

[Mary Sousa]

He is very cute but I’m an owner of a pure Pom. Yours doesn’t look exactly like a pure Pom. But either way enjoy him. He is cute!

Thank you. I sent for dna test. Which could take a month. If anyone wants to make guesses. I will write in to let you know what it says when it comes.

 

[Mary Sousa]

Hello there, I just adopted what was said to be Pom. At further look with friends, he looks like mix. He weighs 4.4 pounds at about 8 weeks..supposedly. Although still has slight tint of blue to his eyes. So could be younger.
My friend says his paws are a bit big for pure Pom. And his tail a little short for one too. Also seems too heavy at such young age for pure one. I love the idea of mix and am intrigued to know what he’s mixed with. He is the blacker of the two pups in photo but I show both so you may get a better idea from 2.
Thank you
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[Mary Sousa]

 

[Mary Sousa]

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No Pomeranian at all🤪
Interesting mix though

 

[Mary Sousa]

No Pomeranian at all🤪
Interesting mix though

Just hoping he doesn’t get too big
He’s 8 pounds at 12 weeks

 

[LeoRose]

That's quite the mix! If he's 8 pounds at 12 weeks, he's not going to be really small, but probably not huge, either.

 

[Deacon.dog]

according to this Dog Size Calculator | How big will my puppy get? your dog will be about 30 lbs

 

[RonE]

Just hoping he doesn’t get too big
He’s 8 pounds at 12 weeks

In the details you got from Embark, there should be an estimate of his likely adult weight.

Take it with a grain of salt, though. They estimated Franklin's adult weight at 15 pounds and he's now a bit over 25. That's probably because the rescue thought he was 2 years old when we got him (and he was 15 pounds then.) There's no way he was full-grown when we got him and probably closer to 6-8 months.

Our vet, who I like and respect greatly, is skeptical of the current DNA tests. I actually have a Wisdom Panel kit to do a comparison test. Crazy extravagant, but I'm very curious.

 

[Mary Sousa]

according to this Dog Size Calculator | How big will my puppy get? your dog will be about 30 lbs

Gosh, thank you!

In the details you got from Embark, there should be an estimate of his likely adult weight.

Take it with a grain of salt, though. They estimated Franklin's adult weight at 15 pounds and he's now a bit over 25. That's probably because the rescue thought he was 2 years old when we got him (and he was 15 pounds then.) There's no way he was full-grown when we got him and probably closer to 6-8 months.

Our vet, who I like and respect greatly, is skeptical of the current DNA tests. I actually have a Wisdom Panel kit to do a comparison test. Crazy extravagant, but I'm very curious.

In the details you got from Embark, there should be an estimate of his likely adult weight.

Take it with a grain of salt, though. They estimated Franklin's adult weight at 15 pounds and he's now a bit over 25. That's probably because the rescue thought he was 2 years old when we got him (and he was 15 pounds then.) There's no way he was full-grown when we got him and probably closer to 6-8 months.

Our vet, who I like and respect greatly, is skeptical of the current DNA tests. I actually have a Wisdom Panel kit to do a comparison test. Crazy extravagant, but I'm very curious.

I couldn’t find weight estimate on embark. It is very interesting info. Will you please let me know if wisdom panel kits gives much different reading for your dog. Thanks!

 

[RonE]

I couldn’t find weight estimate on embark. It is very interesting info. Will you please let me know if wisdom panel kits gives much different reading for your dog. Thanks!

I found it about a year after we got our DNA results.

Under the breed summary, there should be several links. Click on the one that says TRAITS and then BODY SIZE and then SEE DETAILS.

And I will definitely post the comparison between the Embark and Wisdom Panel results. I'm also doing an Embark test on our senior dog, who I am 90% certain is a lab/Weimaraner mix. (I was also 90% certain that Franklin is a shih-tzu/Jack Russel mix and I was dead wrong.) I've always regretted that we didn't do a DNA test on our dog Esther before she died. She may have been 100% Plott, a Plott mix or no Plott at all. Lab/Rottweiler is a real possibility. We'll never know.