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Hi, I need some help with my pitbull puppy. well he was only about 1 1/2 months when we got him. Hes a pure pit and his name is Iggy ( Iggnacio, Iggy Smalls, Iggito, Igglo, etc. lol) Well my boyfriend has another dog a year old which is a pit n chowchow mix, Blanco. When we brought Iggy, Blanco liked him, he likes other dogs just is overly excited. He was good with Iggy although he would growl if he went to play with a toy he had it wasnt overly agressive tho and the funny thing is Iggy wouldnt back away if he growled like he didnt even know what it meant. Anyway one day my boyfriend who IDIOTICALLY left them together with a BONE. Iggy got bit, obviousllllyyyyy. Cut on his head above his eye not too bad but then it got infected he basically almost died etc etc. Next fight over waterbowl little cut on his nose he was fine with that one. This didnt make Iggy scared or nervous because he has no hard feelings and now plays with Blanco by biting him and hanging on to his neck fat.
I bring him to my moms alot n my other dog ( shes 7, a mutt ) hatessss Iggy with a passion because Iggy wants to play n bite her n she growls n snaps at him as soon as he comes to her. And Iggy with his head in his butt doesnt care that this dog twice his size is snapping, hes not mad, hes not scared, just doesnt even pay attention. So we keep him away from her.
So hes fine with Blanco so we figured he'd be fine with other dogs. Well me and my man have been watching my love, Cesar Millan Dog Whisperer seasons, he got all four. So we saw a dog outside the other day, a medium poodle looking thing so I wanted to see if Iggy would be friendly, he barked a bit but I brought him over. The girl was really nice anyway Iggys waging his tail smelling and thennnn..growls and goes to bite him? Oh...ok? The dog was an angel n didn't even get mad. Anyway we ran into her again at the front of the building after the walk. My boyfriend said let meeeee try it, since he thinks he is the second coming of the dog whisperer. Anyway things are fine, smelling, goes to bite the dog again. I dont know what his problem is. The only thing I notice is he walks n seems to do everything better off the leash. He isn't bad on the leash although he pulls a lil bit, so I'm thinking maybe its like a "lemme at him! hold me back, hold me back!" type of feeling when he's on the leash.Saying that, a dominance issue of sorts, with other dogs only never us, or any people. Anyway rite now I'm scared to not have him on the leash around another dog cause I don't want him to bite. Suggestionnnsssss pleasssseee ????????????????
 

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Find a local excellent behaviorist or trainer to help you with your dog. It doesn't sound as if either you or your boyfriend is knowledgeable or experienced enough to deal with this on your own.

For one thing, Iggy missed a crucial time with his mother and litter mates. For another, although it doesn't generally show up until sometime during adolescence or early adulthood, Pits do often have a tendency to be dog aggressive (so do many terrier breeds, not just the bullies).
 

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i agree with the previous poster.

puppies shouldn't be taken away from their mothers and littermates until they are AT LEAST 8 weeks old. A puppy taken away misses out on prime socialization time. Most places it is actually illegal to sell puppies that young.

you should never leave a puppy unsupervised, let alone unsupervised with another dog. if you can't watch your puppy, you should crate him.

have you done any training with your puppy yet?
 

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I do agree about the socialization aspect but i didnt really know that until now. I was reading a book and it says that they learn socialization through being with their lil bros n sis but i didnt get this dog from a breeder which can also be another factor. They didn't mistreat the dog by any means lots of love but we got it from a lady ( mom of a girl who works with my (b.f) she was feeennnnningg to get rid of all the pups, only had to left when we came by so the others must have been given away reallyyy early. She had all the dogs in a little appt. with both mom and dad locked in seperate rooms, they looked a lil agressive she said they kept breaking the doors to the room they were in so.

well the training is trying to housebreak even tho its not going that well but were making progress, trying to do behavior training such as hes not allowed to play agressively with blanco anymore if he starts biting too much or barking we correct him. Make him sit and wait for his food until he is calm. Working on making him understand sit but if i use a treat he gets so distracted he wont do it, he does it when i ask him without a treat but i wanna reinforce it.

He is smart he understands...he has his sound that he knows he is wrong ( he makes like his awww fineeee sound...it is a little sad whine he always does it when he is listening tho) this is so funny we were hysterical first time he did this. My boyfriend doesnt want him on the bed so we would say off and put him off thinking he didnt get it. Well one day I was so mad and I gave him a look and just pointed and he did his "aww fineee" as he was giving me a sad face and jumping off the bed. So he gets things not like hes just dumb.

And speaking of me thinking his leash is the devil. I took him out yesterday without it WITH Blanco ( who usually gets him ralled up) on the leash. We saw a dog across the street Blanco got a little excited but Iggy didnt even care n we passed people who Iggy usually goes up to right away or runs ahead to go to them, he was speeding up n I just said no n he stoped. Then we passed the person he wanted them to pet him so he stopped but I said come n he just came I swear his leash is the devil I dont get it.
 

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It's not too late to socialise your pup now with extensive work. However, you need to find some well-behaved dogs to socialise with. And by "well-behaved", I mean dogs that won't growl at him, snap at him or try to kill him (which seems to have made up a majority of the dog-dog exposure he's had in his life thus far). Let me assure you that the episodes with Blanco and your mother's dog HAVE left an impact on Iggy.

I also think you need to enlist the help of a professional on this issue. This doesn't include watching seasons of Cesar Milan. The show states over and over on it to refrain from practising the methods demonstrated on it -- please heed that advice! Cesar's methods are for professionals and require expert timing and interpretation of canine body language. Find a behaviourist who will help you undo the aggressive tendencies that Iggy seems to have developed.

Lastly, I recommend you do some reading on leash-reactivity in dogs. It will help explain why Iggy seems to react to other dogs only while on leash.
All the best. Do remember that you owe it to Iggy and the rest of the pit bull population in your area to raise your pup as a well-behaved canine citizen. Pit bulls suffer from a bad and very fragile reputation; it only takes one aggressive pit to taint the image of all the pit bulls in your town.
 

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If I were you I would not let him go up to any dogs except your own till he get the necessary training. I think another idea would be signing up for obedience classes so he can be around other dogs in a controlled environment.
 

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I wouldn't have him off leash until he is trained including a 100% recall. There are many threads on here about dogs getting attacked/attacking other dogs, dogs getting lost, and dogs getting hit by cars, due to being off leash. He might be fine sometimes, but it only takes one time to have your dog hit by a car or attacked.

There are 2 threads now, on the first or second page about a dog hit/killed by a car due to being off leash, and another that resulted in 2 dogs being killed due to one dog attacking and killeing the other and the owner putting him down.
 

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Socailization, socailization, socaliziation.

Also watch that the leash is not tight when he is greeting other dogs. Give him slack. The tight leash could be making him nervous or feeling like he has no escape. If you can, drop the leash for those few seconds it takes him to greet. Get him out meeting as many dogs as possible everyday!
 

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Find a local excellent behaviorist or trainer to help you with your dog. It doesn't sound as if either you or your boyfriend is knowledgeable or experienced enough to deal with this on your own.

For one thing, Iggy missed a crucial time with his mother and litter mates. For another, although it doesn't generally show up until sometime during adolescence or early adulthood, Pits do often have a tendency to be dog aggressive (so do many terrier breeds, not just the bullies).
totally agree.

You need to kurb this agression straight away and estabilsh yourself as an alpha to be reckoned with.

Iggy probaby has no clue that this behaviour is unacceptable other than you yelling at him which tends to excite dogs.

Honestly your best bet is the local obedience school with maybe some other dogs/pups. Worst case scenario is that he is around more puppies, yeah.
 

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Ok...*breathe Zim*....


Pit Bull Ownership Done Right


You have Pit Bulls. In today's political climate regarding this breed that places an ENORMOUS responsibility on your shoulders.

Why?

You screw up ONE TIME and EVERY pit bull owner will suffer for it...sooner or later.

There are many many people out there who would like nothing better than to take your dogs and put them down whether you like it or not. Their ability to actually make this a reality depends on you.

you need to get this situation under control ASAP.

Im going to private message you with some info.
 

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Hows it going with the pup?

Have you got him out more to socialize? (dog parks, vet office etc) any place you can drop his leash to let him meet and greet is best. Start before he gets to old........!!
 

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So Iggy is doing so wonderful!!! We brought him to the dog park and he is the poster child for dog parks now, he is friendly and not aggressive at all.We've been bringing him as much as possible. He is still having potty issues though =(
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happppppppppppppppppppppppppppyyyyyyy (whoever commented for me to stop adddddddddiinnnggggg lettterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssss. This is for uuuuuuuuuuuuu. Muahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! kisssssssssssseeeessssssssssssssssssss)

Anyways thanks for the help from the FEW people ( rosemary, jend, dogsareme...) and looks like some of the others are in desperate NEED of some training of their own..obidience school that!! lol =p
 

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Dog parks are NO NO's for Pit Bulls, PLEASE do not take your dog back to the dog park. Your dog may never start a fight, but if a fight breaks out your pop WILL fight to the end.

I normally don't link other forums from other forums, but read this. It's called "dog park reality check":
http://www.pitbullforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=50274


Dog parks are where every rude and untrained dog goes. Your better off finding a small group of doggie pals for your dog to play with. Keep him away from Dog parks though. It's not uncommon for 2 random dogs to get into a fight, a Pit Bull to jump in and try to break it up then the Pit Bull is blamed for the attack and is put down because of it.

Dogs do not NEED to be around other dogs to be happy. My Nubs is an only dog with a random play date once in a blue moon. He is happy like that as am I. There is so much less stress then worrying about DA showing up. This breed of dog has been bred for 100's of years to be DA, and can become DA at any time of their life.

You need to start researching this breed closely and learning everything you can so you can be a good owner. If your dog does something bad, like ends up in a fight with another dog, it effects EVERY PIT BULL IN THE WORLD. Not city, not state, but THE WORLD. No joke. A Pit Bull attack in Australia is felt through out the US. A dog attack in the US is felt across the UK. And so forth.

Websites all Pit Bull owners should read:
http://www.apbt.info/tiki-index.php
http://www.pitbull411.com/history.html
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/
 

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So Iggy is doing so wonderful!!! We brought him to the dog park and he is the poster child for dog parks now, he is friendly and not aggressive at all.We've been bringing him as much as possible. He is still having potty issues though =(
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happppppppppppppppppppppppppppyyyyyyy (whoever commented for me to stop adddddddddiinnnggggg lettterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssss. This is for uuuuuuuuuuuuu. Muahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! kisssssssssssseeeessssssssssssssssssss)

Anyways thanks for the help from the FEW people ( rosemary, jend, dogsareme...) and looks like some of the others are in desperate NEED of some training of their own..obidience school that!! lol =p
Seriously. Grow up a little bitttttttttttttttttttttt.
Your dog does not need to be going to the dog park. Darkmoon and Zim know what they are talking about when it comes to the pitties. You should listen.
 

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When owning a pitbull you have to understand that this is what they were bred for. They were bred to fight other dogs. Alot of times your dog can be completely fine with other dogs, and then around the age of 2 become DA. With this breed socialization is a must but if your dog doesn't like other pups then there's nothing you can do about it. You can't leave them alone with other dogs. Playtime's should always be supervised, then you won't end up with a bitten pup. This is not the kind of dog that you can train the DA out of. Even if you think you have, always have control of the situation.
 

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been busy as crap haven't had a chance to pm you nessecary info but honestly hun that attitude is going to get you nowhere you want to be.

ok so your dog did ok....this time...so what?

I really do understand the desire to take your dog out and do doggie socials and such but to be bluntly honest..it isn't worth the risk.

the risk is being the cause of something like this:

www.denverkillsdogs.com


do you know what bsl is?

www.stopbsl.com


stay away from dog parks and educate yourself on the breed. if you want to keep your dogs it is of VITAL importance that you do so.

www.workingpitbull.com
www.riospitbull.com
www.apbtconformation.com
 

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That is insane. I refuse to believe that just because my dog is a pitbull its a killing machine. I obviously supervise my dog in the dog park and also he didn't do okay this time he's done wonderful many times.There are many other pitbulls in the dog part and they aren't ripping anyone apart either. I have read up on many pitbull attacks and those were an obvious accident waiting to happen.Also the stupidest thing I ever heard is to NOT socialize the dog and keep him in the house...due to the risk. Not at the dog park..locked away? Ya thatll make him a sweetipie.I live in newark,nj the pitbull is the damn official dog of this place noone is ready to blame my dog cause it's a pit because they almost certainly have a pit themselves...iggy is one of the sweetest.There's about 6 pits on my block alone Including a pit who's owner is my bf's friend and she will be ready to KILL whatever dog on site and she only goes on walks look how good that did her.He said he's broken mugs over her head and she hasn't let go. Also I am very anxious for good advice,presented in a proper way.No need to act like I have no experience,I've had a dog by my side my whole life. The thing I most hate are people who talk down to others.Nothing wrong with giving excellent advice in a nice way.As opposed to excellent advice in a condesending way. Come on I'm sure ur all old enough to know that by now.Save the attitude. Back to topic..Iggy is coming along well, i go out of my way to introduce him to new dogs with plenty of caution and supervision.He absolutely loves people and he is coming along very well. I am careful and confident not doubtful or scared I hope for the best not expect the worst but everyone has their own view.

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