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I have a three year old Papillion who has a few little behavioral quirk I wanted to sot out as they are a pain to handle sometimes and has become a great inconvenience on some occasions.
First one- Separation anxiety. She is slowly losing it (meaning it's the slightest less intense than when I first got her a year ago) but this is what she does if I walk out the door without her.
Barks
Whines
Jumps
Scratches at the wood
And as you can imagine it's not too handy at horse shows when I tie her up outside the cafe or something and she's just BARKING and BARKING and BARKING. and WHINING and jumping up and down and it's all I can do to be like -not my dog... not my dog... ignore....- Or if I have to have someone hold her wile I school my horse or something and the poor person who holds her on the leash must think... well I don't know. It's jut not a good behavior.
A new one or her is whenever she's off leash and I'm having a lesson or something she's fine but about half an hour later she's in the ring and following my horse around. GRAH.
When I take her outside to throw the ball (like three times a day) she's jumping up and down and yipping.
I realize that she has an excess of energy. I am plenty fit-and I do jog her about half a mile everyday.
I just want to know some ways to fix it.
 

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My 6 month old pap, Dexter, does all of the above. They are velcro dogs and if given the chance will stay stuck to their people. Is she crate trained? Can you bring a carrier with you and crate her in it, while with your horse, at shows, etc. to keep her safe and in one spot? Put a really good chewy in there with her and ignore her when she barks and whines (Dex does this too), then she *should* settle down.
 

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Hmm... no she's very poorly crate trained but I should fix that. Her previous owners (this is what makes me the most mad) did NOTHING with her
zero
nada
nooooo thing.
In fact, the reason I got her was because a barn worker had little Lulu following her around and the owner was pretty much begging my mom to take her otherwise she would've been going to the pound because her boyfriend "isn't fond" of her. When she first came to my house all she did was hide under the sofa doing that little anxious growl of hers. Humans :puke:
Bu yes, she is quite the 'velcro' dog now haha :) Thanks for the advice, I'll try to do some crate training. It's really not safe for her to be following right behind the huge hooves of a 1,000+ pound animal. Good luck with your Dexter pup :)
 

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Good luck to you too! I do hope Laurelin sees this thread and posts!! ** hint hint if she's reading this!!** lol She is very very knowledgable about the breed and she always gives great advice. I think that she also has at least one pap that is somewhat hyper, so she may have some good ideas for you. My Dexter isnt overly hyper, he's pretty easy going. Dont get me wrong, he LIVES to play ball, run, jump and play "tag" with my son. He is very high energy, but he also calms down pretty quickly and easily. And whereas he LOVES to be attached to me, he doesnt have seperation anxiety. We also crate him at night. He gets his Kong filled with peanut butter and he knows that it's "nighty night time. He will whine and bark a little, but a couple of firm "hush Dexter's" is enough to quiet him.

Some paps are just too hyper and high strung. Your pap baby may be one of those.
 

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Well, I'm probably the wrong person to ask for this one. I still struggle with my two being loud whenever they're kenneled, especially if I'm working another dog. I am sure PawzK9 can attest to the fact that my two are loudmouths a lot of the time, lol. They really don't like being left behind when they know I'm doing something fun. When I take them to agility, the non working one barks most the class. I am seeing some improvement with Summer after waiting her out for a few weeks but it's marginal. a lot of paps are vocal dogs.

Summer's SA we tried Prozac for a while and it worked but I wasn't comfortable with it. Both mine are good when I leave my house to go to work these days. For Summer, having Mia helped a lot.

I would crate her around the horses though! I don't think it's safe at all to have such small dogs loose around horses. We have horses and the dogs and horses are never interacting. One of our horses is the kind to go stomp on a dog anyways.

Papillons WILL follow you if they have the option. If you gave them the option, they would never be apart from their owner. They're just very needy/clingy dogs. Makes sense as they're companion dogs and bred to love their people over anything else. The good news is that they tend to naturally stick close. Recalls are easy to train as is getting the dog to pay attention to you over other things. Bad news is that they're in your business all the time.

As far as exercise goes some need a LOT of exercise. A lot of breed websites don't seem to mention this and a lot of people go into getting a papillon expecting a calm lapdog. They're generally not that way. Some can be very high maintenance. Half a mile would be a warmup for either of mine. The higher drive paps (which judging by your video, yours is) can be off the walls high energy. Mia is on alert almost all the time, ready to go at the drop of a hat. She will be calm around the house and chill out but if I so much as make a move, she's raring to go. If we're doing something, she's doing it with gusto too. Loudly (Mia screams) and as fast as possible. There's not much in between with her.

I think it's fun and a lot of dogs I see are too slow and not wild enough for me. The bottom line is the more you can do with her and the more training the better. Agility is great as is trick training. Mental stuff is the best for them. Mine need to be let to run and blow off some energy every day. But really so long as they get a lot of interaction and direction from you, they're happy, good dogs.
 

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I also think since she got nothing before from her old owners that she'll need a lot more direction than most would. I shudder to imagine what Mia would be like if she'd been owned her first three years by someone that didn't do anything with her. She'd be a terror. Your video of her reminds me a lot of Mia.

Here's a couple videos of my three year old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-iRbU6uhrE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9THxFz8LZfQ&list=UUEMit_X89sKygjypdATGzYQ&index=2&feature=plcp

Can you get her in a class? Obedience or agility?
 

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And your Paps are gorgeous!
I taught my little one that very same trick, the dance thing. She looks very high energy! Thought it was adorable, glad I'm not the only Papillion owner who has the barking issue. I'm ashamed to say I got her with no knowledge of the breed, but soon after read about them a bit. Your right, it's hardly ever mentioned how, erm, hyper they are ;P
No it's really not safe for her to be around the horses especially because she thinks it's cute to be under their bellies on my heels. Glad that those horses are quiet and not the stompy type o_o.
Hahaha, Mia sounds just like mine. Settled down one minute, but if you get up right there with you. And oh lord, if you go outside with a squeaky ball in your hand it's just up and down jumping spinning clawing at my legs until I throw it for her. Crazy dog :p
And you know what she *was* in an agility class and she was really good at it, always paying attention to every move I did and so, so fast. We only had an issue with the teeter where I had to work really hard to teach her to wait for it to drop. She would always just jump off. I need to eneter her back into them as it was a good outlet for some of that energy. Hmm.
I'm excited to talk with another pap owner xD I never see them just walking out on the streets.
Is Mia weird about her feet being touched? And being on her belly? I'm just wondering because they seem like very similar dogs.
 

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I'm starting to see them more and more often around here as pets. When we got our first, no one had heard of them.

A lot of people I've met have been shocked when they got their first papillon, expecting a calm lapdog. Unfortunately their look is one that people wanting a purse dog tend to go for. I've had one papillon that is very calm but the rest have been active dogs. Mia is a VERY active dog, though. If someone got her expecting a purse dog, it would end badly.

Mine have for the most part been really cuddly dogs with people they know. But they can be a little bit sensitive. Bernard is the worst about touching his feet. He HATES it. Mine love belly rubs. Rose would not let me stop with the belly rubs the other day.
 

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*snickers* heh... heh... Lulu... in a purse... no exercise. She'd be a train wreck.
Don't you love it when people approach you while walking one of your Paps and this happens: "AWW she's so PRETTYYY the cutest little long haired Chihuahua I've ever seen!!! and she's so SILKY!!!!" o_o
Oh lordy I love Mia xD Watched a few of your videos on youtube :)
Hmm... she semi enjoys belly rubs and falls asleep when I scrat her belly but only if she's laying on her side. If she's flat on her back... well, she's never flat on her back :p And I rhyme.
Your bunch all have so much fringe on their ears I love it! Mia's look exactly like two little butterfly wings. It's perfect.
 
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