Alerting you that a breed will not tolerate correction based training is NOT rude, it's attempting to help both you and your future dog. Lagottos as a breed cannot handle correction based training. Not only will you end up frustrated, you could easily ruin the dog. If you're determined to use physical corrections, you should be looking into a breed that is known to be able to handle them.I never asked how you felt my training methods would work out with this breed, did I?
Sick and TIRED of the rude comments.
thank you for your input Leo, I checked OFA and all of their dogs have been cleared.
Then you aren't capable of modifying your training, are you? And no, you do not to dictate what people respond to on your threads, again. That is backseat moderating, and it is not tolerated. If you think a post is out of line, you can report it, but you may not tell people what they can and cannot post. This is your last warning on that.I am more than capable of altering my training to work with a more sensitive breed. I have worked with countless Collies and Shelties, VERY sensitive dog breeds and they have been FINE with my training methods. I don't know how telling my Lagotto no or giving it a pop on the lead is going to ruin it? It's not, period.
when I post something Simply asking opinions on a breeder, I did not ask "how do you think balanced training will affect this dog?" No, I asked what's your opinion on this breeder. I am TIRED of every single post I make is somehow related to my training methods. Sorry that I'm not R+ or more positive, I am POSITIVE and NEGATIVE, and I'm not changing that. I will modify it, but not change it and my breed of choice will also NOT change my training, it will just modify my training. So for the love, please stop bringing my training methods into every single thread I make, because it's not needed. my question about breeders has nothing to do with my training, thank you.
It's either a crutch, meaning you can't train without it, or it's not. I'm simply going on your previous statements, including ones where you insist that positive reinforcement doesn't work at all. And dial back the attitude there.for my dogs that I own now, a Labrador/hound/pit bull and a poodle?? Not for the dogs I may have in the future, i've said MANY times that I change my training for the dogs im training. My DOGS use a e-collar because they aren't sensitive and they respond well. Would I use it on every dog I train? No. Sooo what else do you have to say
I'm new here, so I've missed most of the previous comments. I won't comment on training methods, but I will say that when someone uses the word "crutch", I think of someone leaning on or depending on whatever it is they're talking about, so perhaps something is being lost in translation?a crutch, meaning you use it for a bit then you don't. I can train with or without it. I also DO insist that pure positive doesn't work, and you just stated you cannot determine what people say in threads, so no, I will not dial back the attitude when myself, and my training are being insulted. Again, its rude
No one insulted your training, and when a moderator tells you to dial back the attitude, I suggest you listen. Enjoy your 7 day time out.a crutch, meaning you use it for a bit then you don't. I can train with or without it. I also DO insist that pure positive doesn't work, and you just stated you cannot determine what people say in threads, so no, I will not dial back the attitude when myself, and my training are being insulted. Again, its rude
I am sorta just posting this for any lurkers or future viewers.yes, leaning on/depending on something, and then phasing it out, yes? Are we on the same boat or am I speaking a different language?
I will say I trained Raleigh without an E-collar. Its deacon who I trained with a e-collar. Before we had a e collar Raleigh had full rein off leash because he always came back, and deacon wasn't allowed off leash, just on a long line. the e-collar allows him to do whatever he wants, with my piece of mind that he'll come back in the face of a major distraction (he's DA and will blow me off for a dog..). Its not like I'm not working on it. its just in place for now, a crutch.