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I have a 9 month old beagle mix that my husband and I rescued about 5 months ago. We had him on Organix puppy food, and organic treats, nothing else. A little over a month ago, he woke up in the middle of the night, peed, then started to poop in the house (which he hardly every did), and then wanted to go outside and had diarrhea. The diarrhea is still occurring, and it happens 10-20 times a day. The only time it stops is when he is on Metronidazole/Flagyl. Here is a rundown of what we have done:

-Pumpkin
-Bland diet of chicken/rice
-2 x-rays (first one showed he had ingested something, a follow up one the next morning showed nothing)
-Abdominal ultrasound - the vet said this showed enteritis, but did not sound very confident in his diagnosis
-Giardia screen - came back negative two times
-Prescription food (low fat, GI)
-Metronidazole/Flagyl - first for 7 days, diarrhea came back, he was put on it again for 2 weeks
-Panacur - was put on this with the second round of Metronidazole. The Metronidazole firmed up his poop, and made him only go 3x a day, but the Panacur seemed to make it go back to normal
-Probiotic - he started this 3 days ago (IAMS Prostora)

He stopped the last round of Metronidazole/Flagyl last Saturday, and by Monday he was back to diarrhea and we are up every 1-2 hours with him. I have no idea what else to do, I feel so bad that he is so sick, he refused his food for the first time this morning (ate 1/4 cup, but no more). We are exhausted and have spent almost $2k on this. I feel lost and out of ideas, please help!!
 

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Possible an intestinal infection. My vet once told me to give my dog a teaspoon of plain yogurt twice a day. That seemed to help for my dogs diarrhea.
He actually used to get plain yogurt in his food (instead of wet food) right up until this happened, so I'm not sure that would help, but I appreciate the response!!
 

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Hey! Make sure the vet is ruling anything out - fecal test, urine sample, blood work. If everything is fine, I would suggest getting him on a pre-made raw diet like Tolden Farms. If he STILL has diarrhea, then you know it's likely not the food. If he stops getting diarrhea, then you can start the slow process of weeding out what's making him sick. Just a suggestion :) Butters got bad diarrhea from reputable brands like Blue Buffalo, but she was ok with Acana, for example ;) Sometimes takes a bit of experimenting, but also know that you have to slowly transition any food changes (unless you decide to go raw, then you can do cold turkey).

Chicken and rice makes no sense to me (even though dogs can handle this) because rice has no nutritional value for dogs. Dogs eat meat. A lot of people will disagree with me, so you can do your own research on this one, but I would normally take out grains altogether.
 

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Could be inflammatory bowel (I had this with a cat once, it was miserable). Especially since the metronidazole helped; it often does with dogs with IBS, even if there's not an apparent problem (or any problem) with parasites/inappropriate bacteria.

Check here:
http://www.2ndchance.info/inflambowel.htm
 

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Could be inflammatory bowel (I had this with a cat once, it was miserable). Especially since the metronidazole helped; it often does with dogs with IBS, even if there's not an apparent problem (or any problem) with parasites/inappropriate bacteria.

Check here:
http://www.2ndchance.info/inflambowel.htm
That's what I am afraid of. The vet said it is a possibility, but wants to rule out everything else. He also seems to be gnawing at his paws lately, I'm not sure if it's related and maybe a food allergy.

Thanks for the IBD article, that's the most comprehensive one I have seen.
 

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Hey! Make sure the vet is ruling anything out - fecal test, urine sample, blood work. If everything is fine, I would suggest getting him on a pre-made raw diet like Tolden Farms. If he STILL has diarrhea, then you know it's likely not the food. If he stops getting diarrhea, then you can start the slow process of weeding out what's making him sick. Just a suggestion :) Butters got bad diarrhea from reputable brands like Blue Buffalo, but she was ok with Acana, for example ;) Sometimes takes a bit of experimenting, but also know that you have to slowly transition any food changes (unless you decide to go raw, then you can do cold turkey).

Chicken and rice makes no sense to me (even though dogs can handle this) because rice has no nutritional value for dogs. Dogs eat meat. A lot of people will disagree with me, so you can do your own research on this one, but I would normally take out grains altogether.
Thank you! I will make sure the vet rules everything out, we have an appt. at 8am tomorrow. Thank God for pet insurance! The chicken and rice seemed odd to me too, but I figured I would follow doctor's orders :) The prescription diet also has chicken and rice in it, but that has done nothing for him. I think I will start with grain free and then try raw.
 

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I am having the same problem with my 4-month-old boxer/rottweiler (I posted about it around a week ago). It's been about a month of diarrhea for her too and it's so frustrating! She's on her second round of Metronidazole now.

We have managed to stop the diarrhea by cooking our own food for her (the vet recommeded a prescription diet to us as well, but I was skeptical). We're feeding her rice, pumpkin, or sweet potato mixed with either chicken or lean ground beef. The dog food we were feeding her before had these ingredients, but this is the only way we found that would stop the diarrhea. These are bland foods so they help (same as with humans when we're sick). We`re also giving her some plain, natural yogurt twice a day. I`m going to look into some kind of vitamins, too because I`m not sure she`s getting enough.

We plan to keep up the home-cooked food until about 2 weeks after the Metronidazole has run out before we start adding in kibble again. I sure hope it works this time!

Keep us updated with how your beagle is doing :)
 

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I am having the same problem with my 4-month-old boxer/rottweiler (I posted about it around a week ago). It's been about a month of diarrhea for her too and it's so frustrating! She's on her second round of Metronidazole now.

We have managed to stop the diarrhea by cooking our own food for her (the vet recommeded a prescription diet to us as well, but I was skeptical). We're feeding her rice, pumpkin, or sweet potato mixed with either chicken or lean ground beef. The dog food we were feeding her before had these ingredients, but this is the only way we found that would stop the diarrhea. These are bland foods so they help (same as with humans when we're sick). We`re also giving her some plain, natural yogurt twice a day. I`m going to look into some kind of vitamins, too because I`m not sure she`s getting enough.

We plan to keep up the home-cooked food until about 2 weeks after the Metronidazole has run out before we start adding in kibble again. I sure hope it works this time!

Keep us updated with how your beagle is doing :)
Oh no, I am so sorry to hear about your boxer, it is so frustrating :( Does she have diarrhea 10-20x a day like my beagle (Zac)? His is mostly at night, it's so strange since he is fed 3x a day. We tried the chicken/rice/pumpkin route, but it didn't work. Does Metronidazole work for your boxer? That worked wonders for him, but we go back to square 1 within 2 days of him being off of it. I will be heartbroken if he has IBD or something just as serious, I don't want the poor dog to be on steroids :( Feel free to send me a PM and we can exchange ideas!
 

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Thank you! I will make sure the vet rules everything out, we have an appt. at 8am tomorrow. Thank God for pet insurance! The chicken and rice seemed odd to me too, but I figured I would follow doctor's orders :) The prescription diet also has chicken and rice in it, but that has done nothing for him. I think I will start with grain free and then try raw.
Vets don't get any training on dog nutrition - I would definitely do some independent research on this one. They sell brands like science diet, ad it's all a giant business. They want to make money. The only thing I trust my vet is to make medical judgments, but even then, I get a second or third opinion.
 

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For many dogs, the processing of the kibble causes the problems, not that actual protein source. There are lots of dogs that can eat raw/home cooked chicken that can't eat chicken based kibbles.

I'd go to a grain free LID (limited ingredient diet) kibble. I have a westie mix that I've found can't tolerate any kibble with grains, potato, grass (alfalfa), or even any grain/grass eating protein source (chicken, duck, lamb, beef, kangaroo, bison). The only thing that's worked for her is California Natural Salmon and Peas. It has a VERY limited ingredient list, along with moderate protein (some dogs can't handle high protein either). They also have quite a few other LID formulas to help with an elimination diet. Here's a link to their site: http://www.naturapet.com/brands/california-natural.

If you have a dog with IBD, you'll want to limit the fat. I've heard of good success with Wellness Core Reduced Fat kibble. It's a very good, grain free kibble, but the fat content is only around 10%, I think.
 

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My Skyler has fiber responsive colitis. We use Vetriscience probiotic daily & the highest fiber non prescription food we can find, I like Pur Vita & nutrisource heartland select. When he does get a flare up I cook up some Lundberg brwn rice mixed w either lentils or split pea, cooked in low sodium chicken broth, add some fresh pumpkin (I keep it frozen year around in serving size baggies). Sprinkle a tiny bit of cheese on top & dogs are freakishly excited for this treat. It's high fiber & plugs (or unplugs) him right up. If his colitis is really bad I add 1/4-1/2 tsp of Metamucil to his serving but that is rare anymore.

Btw how we found it was after many doses of metronidazole & panicur, still random diarrheal that lasted a day to a month, was this way from day he came home. At six mo my vet consulted a GI specialist, turns out Skyler had every indicator for it, it's a diagnosis based on ruling out other things to where this is all that is left. In first month after diagnosis & my changing food & adding regular probiotic, he gained three pounds!
 

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Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all of the advice and different ideas! I posted an update over the weekend, but apparently it didn't go through :( We saw the vet on Friday (his normal vet, who happened to be out of the office when we first went). He's fantastic and doesn't want to do any more diagnostic tests for the time being (he did do some bloodwork). My husband and I are going on vacation, and he said if I was ok with it, we could put him back on Metronidazole until we got back. We are doing that, as well as one more round of Panacur (since his poop looked totally normal last time he was on it).

The next step is a hypoallergenic diet. I started to wean him off of the prescription and put him on Blue Buffalo Basics for Puppies. The vet didn't think it would make a big difference, but the ingredients are so much better than prescription, so I figured it couldn't hurt.

Now I need to figure out what true hypoallergenic diet is, there is so much conflicting information out there :(
 

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no Grains :) A lot of dogs can be allergic to grains. So anything like wheat, soy, barley, oatmeal, rice, brown rice, etc. You'll find that the first ingredient in a lot of treats are grains because they are inexpensive fillers. In dog food, you want the first few ingredients to be non-by product meat. Chicken, beaf, lamb meal are good examples. My dog's tear stains significantly improved once I got her on a raw diet, and I think it's because of the absence of grains and chemical preservatives.

If your dog is still exhibiting allergies, you'd have to start weeding out other foods - that's why I suggested starting raw, because then you can add in pumpkin, or carrot, or whatnot and see if your dog reacts to these specific foods. You don't actually need to feed your dog any vegetables or fruits - they are carnivores. Butters only eats pre-made raw to ensure it's the right balance of meat, organs, and bone/cartilage. Of course we feed her some fruit as treats, but she doesn't 'need' it nutritionally, if that makes sense :)

Feeding vegetables like pumpkin is useful if you're trying to reduce diarrhea, and firm up stool. But again, feeding raw bone does the same thing - it hardens up stool. That is why poo that comes from dogs who eat low grade commercial food are very soft, and often very smelly, whereas poo from a raw diet are small, and firm, and far less 'bad' odour if that makes sense?

If you're trying to find out what works for your dog, also look into Taste of the Wild, Acana, Orijin. Their ingredient list is excellent and arguable better than Blue Buffalo as some (if not all) Blue Buffalo products contains grains early on in the ingredient list.

Here are the first few ingredients of puppy formula in TOTW: Bison, lamb meal, sweet potatoes, egg product, pea protein, peas, potatoes, canola oil, tomato pomace, roasted venison, roasted bison, flaxseed, potato fiber

Here are the first few ingredients of puppy formula in Blue Buffalo: Deboned Lamb, Oatmeal, Whole Ground Barley, Turkey Meal, Peas, Menhaden Fish Meal (source of DHA-Docosahexaenoic Acid), Whole Ground Brown Rice, Tomato Pomace (source of Lycopene), Canola Oil (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols),

Do you see where Oatmeal fits in in Blue Buffalo? #2 :) Followed by Whole Ground Barley.
 

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Ask the vet about pancreas problems. Dogs with some problems will eat like a hog and have constant diarrhea. Pancred powder, a food supplement, will correct the problem.
 

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maybe he just needs more bone in his food. grind up chicken bone and all, don't give him anything else for a while and see if this helps. Not enough bone will cause loose stools, to much bone will make it to hard. You can also buy powdered bone meal to add to the food if you don't want to try the raw. Just be sure its the edible kind and not the one for plants.

You could also have him tested for the sudamonis bacteria. Thats a nasty little bug and takes quite a while to clear up. I think they are put on batryl for that to start and sometimes shots given in the muscle in the back.
 

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Give this food a try. Grandma Mae's Country Naturals Puppy Food. My new pup had loose stool for a couple weeks, I was recommended this food from a little specialty dog shop that only sells all natural stuff. It was literally an immediate improvement.
 

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For many dogs, the processing of the kibble causes the problems, not that actual protein source. There are lots of dogs that can eat raw/home cooked chicken that can't eat chicken based kibbles.

I'd go to a grain free LID (limited ingredient diet) kibble. I have a westie mix that I've found can't tolerate any kibble with grains, potato, grass (alfalfa), or even any grain/grass eating protein source (chicken, duck, lamb, beef, kangaroo, bison). The only thing that's worked for her is California Natural Salmon and Peas. It has a VERY limited ingredient list, along with moderate protein (some dogs can't handle high protein either). They also have quite a few other LID formulas to help with an elimination diet. Here's a link to their site: http://www.naturapet.com/brands/california-natural.

If you have a dog with IBD, you'll want to limit the fat. I've heard of good success with Wellness Core Reduced Fat kibble. It's a very good, grain free kibble, but the fat content is only around 10%, I think.


Thanks georgiapeach I definitely want to go grain free. Interestingly enough, the vet emailed me yesterday and told me he doesn't see much success, only some, with raw or grain free, which I found crazy. What happened to your dog when she eats other protein sources? I was thinking of trying Natural Balance Duck and Potato.

My only other concern is that he was on a reduced fat prescription diet and he was so hungry (no matter how much we fed him) that he started to eat toilet paper and anything else he could get at :(
 
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