[Tamkay]

Im new.. and trying to be informed. I’m looking specifically for local to So Cal Berniedoodle breed puppy.. is this where I can get info on how to find good breeders that are local to me?

 

[petpeeve]

You could start by reading this. Finding a good dog breeder

Some of the advice there may not apply because you are looking for a mixed breed puppy. But a lot of it should help you, ie: health requirements , general info etc.

In my opinion, it is very difficult if not impossible to find a worthy / responsible mixed-breed breeder. So, ... beware, be informed, be thorough, and be vigilant. You might want to explore or re-consider the possibility and advantages of a purebred pup.

Good luck.

 

[pandora]

Agreed , the problem with mixed breeds/designer breeds is that there are a lot of people out there looking to make a fast $$..
can I ask why you want this particular mix?

Health testing is just not going to be offered so you run risks there and by Bernie I presume either St bernard or benese mountain dog ??? Both these breeds are well known to suffer joint problems so if there are no hip/elbow scores its a huge red flag..

Seriously ditch the designer and either go to a shelter for a nice mongey or find a real decent breeder who will provide you with good information proper health checks and ensure the welfare of both parent and pup ..

 

[Tamkay]

You asked why we want this in particular. We love the tricolor. And love the Bernese mountain dog but their life span is extremely short. And they are too big for our space. And poodle mix is great for being hypoallergenic and less shedding .. so it seemed like a great mix. If mixes of dogs are bad as you are suggesting.. I’m just not understanding why mixes of dogs at a shelter our different? I’m trying to understand. But yes.. I would love to find a local ethical breeder of what we like.

 

[pandora]

Hi, The problem is with a mix you never know which parent they will take after... We had Max...his Mother was Bouvier des Flanders and dad was a St bernard.. Max looked like a bouvier but he took after dad so whereas mum was non shedding and only 60 lbs Max took after dad, he shed like a wookie on a bad hair day and he was huge weighing in at around 130lbs and 30 inches tall. By the time Max was six months old he dwarfed his mum..

Max was a rescue only he and his brother were saved the rest of the pups were PTS this to protect mum who was 8 years old and unable to cope with 8 pups and to protect the pups who may have looked cute at 8 weeks but at 8 months were going to be too much for most people to handle. Not my decision and not one I would have made but I didnt get to have a say in that..
Luckily he didnt get joint problems and we hoped that the curse of the Bouvier would pass him by because he was a cross and we took such care but ... at 8 years he developed lymphoma, common among these dogs and we lost him in a few months.

Why different at a rescue? Because by adopting youre not encouraging this trade youre helping to mop up the mess caused by fashion hungry buyers and cash hungry breeders.
If you really like the Bernese but dont have the room have you thought of the smaller Entlebucher mountain dog?

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This is Max , not yet fully grown and yes that is a full sized armchair hes sitting on

 

[Lillith]

You asked why we want this in particular. We love the tricolor. And love the Bernese mountain dog but their life span is extremely short. And they are too big for our space. And poodle mix is great for being hypoallergenic and less shedding .. so it seemed like a great mix. If mixes of dogs are bad as you are suggesting.. I’m just not understanding why mixes of dogs at a shelter our different? I’m trying to understand. But yes.. I would love to find a local ethical breeder of what we like.

Mixes are not bad, but sometimes people who breed "designer dogs" such as doodles and poos and whatever are not very ethical. It's unfortunately the case the majority of the time with designer dog breeders. They're in it for the money and little else. Betterment of the breed and healthy dog is typically not at the forefront of their mind. That doesn't mean there are no mixed breed breeders who are ethical, but you must carefully do your research to ensure you are not supporting a breeder who slaps a male and female together and hopes for the best.

Mixes at shelters are sometimes the result of these unethical breeders, because unethical breeders don't take their dogs back if the owner doesn't work out. Sometimes mixes are strays, or just the victims of some unfortunate situation. They are not automatically worse than other dogs. Many good dogs come from shelters, but when you pay an adoption fee you're supporting people who help the dogs in these unfortunate situation.

With any "doodle", there is no guarantee that they are going to be less shedding or that they'll be hypoallergenic. Any breeder who claims so is likely an unethical breeder or has a misunderstanding of how genetics work, neither of which I would want to buy from! They are a mixed breed, and they could take on the genetics of either parent. If you need the less shedding traits of a poodle, just go with a purebred poodle.

But yes, do your research on what a good breeder looks like before you even start looking for breeders so you can spot the red flags right away. And you can always post here, we like helping to vet breeders, and sometimes someone might know of them!

 

[LeoRose]

As Lillith said, entirely too many "designer breed" (cross bred) breeders are more concerned with "boy dog + girls dog = puppies to sell" than anything else. Crossing two disparate breeds does not automatically create puppies who inherit the best or most desired qualities of both parent breeds. That's just not how genetics works.

One thing to look for is someone who titles their breeding stock in conformation and/or performance events, and does all the recommended health testing for their respective breeds. These are the recommended tests for Berners. https://www.ofa.org/recommended-tests?breed=BMD and these are the recommended tests for SPoos https://www.ofa.org/recommended-tests?breed=PO&var=STD Also, they should know the testing results of all the dogs in a pedigree for the past few generations, and preferably the results of their siblings and their offspring.

 

[Quinsation]

A Berniedoodle is not a breed. It is a mix of breeds...aka, Mutt, or Mixed breed.
You're not going to find a "good" breeder by looking for a mutt.

I have NOTHING against mutts, I have 4 of them, and they are great dogs. BUT, I would never pay a "breeder" for a mutt.