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Hi! Glad i found this forum and hoping for some advice/help.

We have 3 dogs.
Annie, female, Cockapoo, age 11. pudgy (40lbs) and happy.
Oscar, male, Silky? mix... not quite sure, Rescued, 12 lbs, age 7ish
Milo, male, wiener mix? also not sure, Rescued, 14 lbs, age 6ish

Annie is a non issue - super easy dog - sleeps a lot lol
Oscar has been with us 6 years, Milo 5... and during that 5 years it has been fine. They have only ever gotten a little rough when they both wanted the same chew toy. Oscar makes it worse by teasing milo with it. Nothing more than barking and playful growls.

About a month or so ago.. Oscar was eating and milo walked up behind him and Oscar attacked him. Violently. They have always had no problem eating at the same time out of the same bowl. I had just moved the bowl to a different spot, so thought maybe that was the issue. Moved it back.. no problems again.

Now it has moved on to unprovoked aggression and fighting. Like sitting in bed, Oscar in my lap, Milo at wifes feet sleeping... and Oscar stands up stiff stance, tail straight up... you can see the aggression in his stance. I try to defuse to telling him to laydown and pet him, beu he goes over to Milo and either stands over him like that or starts a fight. Milo was asleep facing away. If Milo is laying on the floor (which he does now, i think from fear of Oscar) - Oscar will all of a sudden take that stance and stare where milo usually lays (at wifes feet) and starts to slowly head there.

Last night, we were sitting on the couch, Oscar between us getting pets and attention, Milo on the floor under my feet asleep... when he did the same thing. Stood up, stiff stance, jump down.. bam. started a fight. And its Nasty. I have to lift Oscar off milo and usually he has milo's neck still in his mouth, 1/2 lifting him up with himself. It makes no sense...

Like right now, they a 100% fine... it seems to be most often when my wife and I are sitting together. But like i said, Milo will be doing nothing. I mean, if he was trying to get close, i could think well maybe oscar is protecting his are on the bed... but there are plenty of time milo will snuggle in with my wife and oscar doesnt care.

I cant put my finger on what the "trigger" is because nothing is going on when he does it.
Something needs to stop this, as Milo's neck is now tender - if you pet him a little too firm he yelps in pain...

We have a vet appointment tomorrow to make sure hes healthy....

Oscar on the left, Milo on the right.



Thank you!
 

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My first step would be the vet check. Make sure they do a full blood panel and check the thyroid. You should get Milo checked, too, as sometimes dogs sense that something is off with a dog they know well and will then attack them because they have changed.

For now, I would keep the dogs separated. No more eating together, and I really wouldn't have them in the same room together, either.

It sounds like resource guarding, but Oscar is guarding people as his resource. If medical comes back clean, you may want to consider a behaviorist. If Oscar isn't showing clear signals why he is upset with Milo, a behaviorist may be able to pinpoint what his causing Oscar's behavior and put him on a training program.
 

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I thought the resource hogging too... but I guess it would seem to be just me then, since they dont do it when they lay with my wife only. Interesting that it could be milo... Neither has acted any different, but we will have him checked as well Thanks. At this point i dont think they need to be separated because they are fine all day ( I work from home ) - they just lounge around.. even both get in the crate together and sleep, wait for each other at the door after they go out.. etc.

It seems to be just when we are together (so far)... Thanks so much! Fingers crossed!
 

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After a visit to the vet .. He saw no reason to check blood and such as Oscar seemed just fine. He said to try and make them both stay off the couch with us. For the most part it has helped. once or twice Oscar has acted a little fishy (eyeing Milo and walking around him) but nothing like before - and we just tell him to lay down and he stops.. So it would seem as you said, he is guarding us. Its only US though, if its just my wife or myself... he pays milo zero attention. Only when we are on the couch or bed together. Man this dog is odd lol. Will keep posted if it continues to improve.
 

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I hate when Vets say the dog is healthy and see no reason to check the blood. In your case it sounds like he was probably right but if it had been his thyroid you would not be able to tell without a blood test.

Glad things seem to be working out for you and your dogs.
 

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I know what you mean, but he based on how we described what happens. It truly does not happen at all unless we are together. All day they lounge around perfectly fine together with Oscar showing ZERO aggression toward milo. Its only after we sit together that the little guy starts acting up.
 

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wow what a priceless picture in the expressions of who is the grumpy pants.... I would say resource guarding. (trigger couch and or you) consequence is to be banished out of the room.. For my GSD's it worked cause they want to be with you and the group. but if you can't act right in the group then you have to leave. walk them out of the room at the first change of behavior, staring, getting stiff, making any noise which ever is the first change of behavior that is your cue to remove them from the family area ( be gentle, give a command in a regular voice I used (leave) have them follow you or take them on a lead, but do it with them show them tell them to stay put the baby gate up and go back to family time. let them stay out side the room and wait until they accept it. lay down, being quiet, fall asleep then you can invite them back in. Even if it is a quick turn around and he focus's in on Milo, again Oscar Leave, and escort them back out. Timing to the wrong behavior and being banished is what makes the connection that if Oscar does this , this happens .. your right to take the trigger of the couch away. but any other time Oscar gives a hard stare , pays way too much attention to Milo's movements or business.. Oscar needs to be redirected or banished... it always starts with one behavior, you stop the behavior it doesn't go any further
 
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