This is actually a 2 in 1 question. My dog is pregnant how long till she delivers, i would say she is about 2 months. Next question (this might sound cruel but i couldn't think of any other option at the time so please no complaints as my dog was seriously hurting my brothers) I brought my dog with me to my brothers house, she is a 3 year old pit (red nose red devil 100%). I am trying to socialize her more with other dogs. I live in a small town and for the last 2 1/2 years i was in school so i walked her when i worked out and she hasn't really been around other animals. Anyways I'm at my brothers house and his dog a chocolate lab female begins growling at my dog and my dog still on a leash lunges at my brothers dog and I am able to stop her before she bites. I back up onto the drive way unaware that his dog can still get to the drive way. He has an unfenced yard and when he brings her outside he puts her on a wire that twist into the ground. Anyways his dog runs up to mine and growls again and my dog sable bites down on his dogs face and WOULD NOT LET GO. I had my brother grab his dog and we tried to split them apart without pulling them away in fear that it would tear his dogs wound. My dog refused to let go so in a last attempt i hit her upside the head and she let go. I immediately put my dog up and we brought his dog to the vet she had to have her lip stitched and was put on antibiotics. My dog is very sweet when it comes to people but when she is around animals whether its male or female unless she is in heat is very aggressive. I will not tolerate her aggressive behavior and anything that will help to rid her of aggressiveness would be greatly appreciated.
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Your mentor and/or vet would be better suited in answering this. Not strangers who know nothing about you or your dog.
This would beg the question...why is your do pregnant? If you can't tolerate this dog's behavior, what makes you think you can tolerate 9 or 10 more? These questions are rhetorical...I don't understand your circumstance one iota.
Considering how *you* approached and how *you* reacted to the brother's-dog situation, *you* need more help than what can be offered on this forum or any other. (Emphasis added to show tolerance doesn't start or end with the dog.)
Your best bet is to hire the services of a certified professional. I'd start here:
http://www.iaabc.org/suchen/
or here:
http://ccpdt.org/rstr/index.html
or here:
http://www.apdt.com/po/ts/default.aspx
A dog's gestation period from time of conception to delivery is about 63 days. It can be shorter or longer. That is the average.
Why isn't your dog Spayed?
What was your motivation for breeding her without knowing how long it takes until the puppies arrive?
CP is right on the training advice. I will also offer another bit of advice.
Breaking up a dog fight you take the dog by the hind legs and whell barrow him backwards. The dog typically lets go.
You need to do some reading about dogs and training and you need to get a professional in to help you.
Books:
"The Other End of the Leash" by Patricia McConnell is a good start.
CP gave other links that will help you too.
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ok im going to be honest.
your post INFURIATES me. if I knew you id probably slap you silly.
so your dog is preggo..what the crap are you doing with a preggo PIT BULL and you don't know how long a dog's gestation is???
and I emphasize pit bull because the breed is SUFFERING from the negative effects of over population more so than ANY other breed of dog!!
you have homes lined up for the likely twelve plus pups you got cookin there!? homes with adequate insurance and clean criminal records?
OMFG!!!
and here is the rest that pisses me off..
you have a pregnant dog who you admit has behavioral issues and you bring her around other dogs....WITHOUT A BREAKSTICK!!!
www.pbrc.net has info on breaksticks and how to use them.
www.workingpitbull.com
www.badrap.org
check these sites. they are full of listings of THOUSANDS of homeless pit bulls...
is she ofa excellent? has she had brucellosis testing? what do you know of her confo? her angles correct? her temperment is OBVIOUSLY not the best example of the breed..
www.apbtconformation.com
I can't even post anymore...im too angry...
THIS: www.denverkillsdogs.com is what is happening to pit bulls because of overpopulation and YOU are CONTRIBUTING to it.
im shaking im so mad
your post INFURIATES me. if I knew you id probably slap you silly.
so your dog is preggo..what the crap are you doing with a preggo PIT BULL and you don't know how long a dog's gestation is???
and I emphasize pit bull because the breed is SUFFERING from the negative effects of over population more so than ANY other breed of dog!!
you have homes lined up for the likely twelve plus pups you got cookin there!? homes with adequate insurance and clean criminal records?
OMFG!!!
and here is the rest that pisses me off..
you have a pregnant dog who you admit has behavioral issues and you bring her around other dogs....WITHOUT A BREAKSTICK!!!
www.pbrc.net has info on breaksticks and how to use them.
www.workingpitbull.com
www.badrap.org
check these sites. they are full of listings of THOUSANDS of homeless pit bulls...
is she ofa excellent? has she had brucellosis testing? what do you know of her confo? her angles correct? her temperment is OBVIOUSLY not the best example of the breed..
www.apbtconformation.com
I can't even post anymore...im too angry...
THIS: www.denverkillsdogs.com is what is happening to pit bulls because of overpopulation and YOU are CONTRIBUTING to it.
im shaking im so mad
well if you must know why she is pregnant its because a dog got through my parents fence while she was there and i guess mated with her,do to my fence getting murdered again,...this would be my SECOND time,...SECOND time that a drunk driver has plowed through my back fence only this time the guy hit the telephone pole at the corner knocked off the transistor box and it busted all over my back yard, oh and lets not forget to mention it was a fatality when he died 4 1/2 hours later at the hospital. Now if your liberal whining self knows anything about transistors they have lead sleeves in them and it leaked all over my yards,..major environmental and health issue. Yea not only will it kill a human, it will definitely kill an animal that knows no better. As far as known aggression she mends to herself 99.9% of the time and its never an issue this is the first time she has ever acted like that and i'm not going to accept that but i don't need your fascist liberal rude remarks. Lol and the slapping thing,..what are you 11? whats the need for violence? Grow up. But hopefully that cleared up a couple things,...i didnt realize that if your dog got pregnant and you weren't sure about her gestation period because she got hit up by a stray cause of circumstances that you would be torn apart for not explaining yourself.ok im going to be honest.
your post INFURIATES me. if I knew you id probably slap you silly.
so your dog is preggo..what the crap are you doing with a preggo PIT BULL and you don't know how long a dog's gestation is???
and I emphasize pit bull because the breed is SUFFERING from the negative effects of over population more so than ANY other breed of dog!!
you have homes lined up for the likely twelve plus pups you got cookin there!? homes with adequate insurance and clean criminal records?
OMFG!!!
and here is the rest that pisses me off..
you have a pregnant dog who you admit has behavioral issues and you bring her around other dogs....WITHOUT A BREAKSTICK!!!
www.pbrc.net has info on breaksticks and how to use them.
www.workingpitbull.com
www.badrap.org
check these sites. they are full of listings of THOUSANDS of homeless pit bulls...
is she ofa excellent? has she had brucellosis testing? what do you know of her confo? her angles correct? her temperment is OBVIOUSLY not the best example of the breed..
www.apbtconformation.com
I can't even post anymore...im too angry...
THIS: www.denverkillsdogs.com is what is happening to pit bulls because of overpopulation and YOU are CONTRIBUTING to it.
im shaking im so mad
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I don't see what all the talk about transistor boxes has to do with your situation. I also don't know why your dog wasn't spayed before this happened. She's 3 years old. That means you had a whopping 2 1/2 years to get her fixed. She's obviously not good breeding stock if she's got aggression issues. She can very well pass that on to her puppies, and then you'll have not only 1 aggressive dog, but a whole litter of them. What was she doing in the yard by herself if she was in heat and you knew your fence was broken?
You need to find a behaviorist after the puppies have found homes, and until then, I would not bring her around other dogs. Right now, you just need to concentrate on the puppies. If she is 2 months pregnant then she could have them any time now. If you haven't already, find a vet and get her a checkup. A vet could probably even give you an estimate on a due date. I'll also second the advice on the breakstick.
You need to find a behaviorist after the puppies have found homes, and until then, I would not bring her around other dogs. Right now, you just need to concentrate on the puppies. If she is 2 months pregnant then she could have them any time now. If you haven't already, find a vet and get her a checkup. A vet could probably even give you an estimate on a due date. I'll also second the advice on the breakstick.
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No matter the situation, it is YOUR responsibility as a dog owner - A PIT BULL OWNER - that your dog does not get pregnant. Whether that means crating, confining, whatever. It is no one's fault but your OWN that she got pregnant. A bitch's heat cycle doesn't stop for unfortunate events in the owner's life. So no matter what life throws at you, the dog and her pregnancy is YOUR responsibility.
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Re: Need help dog to aggressive
hmmmm......I think your post is a little hard to read...so I might be getting this mixed up...
If your going to leave your un alter female dog outside in a yard by her self ....Where the fence is broken (and you knew the fence needs repair)...she needs to be fixed......I'm also not sure about leaving her in a yard where there is toxic chem around
But what is done is done......I hope you can get her alter after this litter and help with getting all her pups altered so this wont keep going on and on.
As for the aggro issues.....You need to read the links that zim posted.....PB are not for everyone and you need to do your research....DA in PB is very common and needs to be handled....You may not like or want to accept DA from your girl but its something that your going to have to understand
I have a bunch more links if you are interested ....And a good PB forum that you could join that has lots of great bully people....But be forewarned they are also going to be very negative about a "oops litter"...as well....there are just too many PB dyeing in shelters every day for people not to feel strongly about it.
hmmmm......I think your post is a little hard to read...so I might be getting this mixed up...
If your going to leave your un alter female dog outside in a yard by her self ....Where the fence is broken (and you knew the fence needs repair)...she needs to be fixed......I'm also not sure about leaving her in a yard where there is toxic chem around
But what is done is done......I hope you can get her alter after this litter and help with getting all her pups altered so this wont keep going on and on.
As for the aggro issues.....You need to read the links that zim posted.....PB are not for everyone and you need to do your research....DA in PB is very common and needs to be handled....You may not like or want to accept DA from your girl but its something that your going to have to understand
I have a bunch more links if you are interested ....And a good PB forum that you could join that has lots of great bully people....But be forewarned they are also going to be very negative about a "oops litter"...as well....there are just too many PB dyeing in shelters every day for people not to feel strongly about it.
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lol @ your excuses.
there is no excuse for not altering your dog. altering your dog is the ONLY foolproof way to prevent unwanted pregnancy
if you dont alter...then you take real responsibility for your mistakes. and yes leaving an unaltered dog in heat outside in a fenced area is a mistake. strays have been known to climb eight foot and higher fences to get at bitches in season.
i am angry. im angry because i break my back trying to save this breed and mop up after the kind of mistakes you made. lol @ your attempts to excuse yourself.
but all isnt lost if you accept that you did made a mistake and do your best to fix the situation.
do some research
www.workingpitbull.com
www.apbtconformation.com
www.riospitbulls.com
she needs to be seen by a vet, have an ultrasound to count how many puppies you got. then start lining up homes IMMEDIATLY. ideally you need two potential homes per puppy. do not give them to renters unless they show proof that their landlord is ok with a pit bull on the premises. get verification from homeowners that they have the proper insurance to cover owneing a pit bull and pass on the websites i posted on this thread to them.
check the homes and have them all sign contracts that they will alter the dogs upon maturity.
keep her away from all other dogs. period. make an appointment to have her altered. search for low cost spay and neuter programs in your area.
check out the stickys at the top of the training forum. they will get you started on proper training. and im going to bring someone to this thread that can help you with how to deal with the birth and the pups.
lol @ your excuses.
there is no excuse for not altering your dog. altering your dog is the ONLY foolproof way to prevent unwanted pregnancy
if you dont alter...then you take real responsibility for your mistakes. and yes leaving an unaltered dog in heat outside in a fenced area is a mistake. strays have been known to climb eight foot and higher fences to get at bitches in season.
i am angry. im angry because i break my back trying to save this breed and mop up after the kind of mistakes you made. lol @ your attempts to excuse yourself.
but all isnt lost if you accept that you did made a mistake and do your best to fix the situation.
do some research
www.workingpitbull.com
www.apbtconformation.com
www.riospitbulls.com
she needs to be seen by a vet, have an ultrasound to count how many puppies you got. then start lining up homes IMMEDIATLY. ideally you need two potential homes per puppy. do not give them to renters unless they show proof that their landlord is ok with a pit bull on the premises. get verification from homeowners that they have the proper insurance to cover owneing a pit bull and pass on the websites i posted on this thread to them.
check the homes and have them all sign contracts that they will alter the dogs upon maturity.
keep her away from all other dogs. period. make an appointment to have her altered. search for low cost spay and neuter programs in your area.
check out the stickys at the top of the training forum. they will get you started on proper training. and im going to bring someone to this thread that can help you with how to deal with the birth and the pups.
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I would also say that bringing a pregnant dog around a strange dog isn't probably a very good idea, and bringing a strange dog around her after she has pups even a worse one.
It's not unusual for pregnant dogs to get aggressive especially to a strange dog, especially if she is well along and getting closer to having the pups.
I agree with others, get your dog spayed asap. There is no reason whatsoever not to, and many reasons to do so for her sake and yours.
It's not unusual for pregnant dogs to get aggressive especially to a strange dog, especially if she is well along and getting closer to having the pups.
I agree with others, get your dog spayed asap. There is no reason whatsoever not to, and many reasons to do so for her sake and yours.
Okay I am going to start by saying Pitbulls get a bad wrap because of their reputation.
Do you know the history of a pit bull?
Pit Bull breed was developed for blood sports: Bull baiting, bear baiting, and later, dogfighting. They are physocally low to the ground and are a very powerful breed. When in a dog fight they have the power to seriously hurt or even kill the other animal. And this breed will win the fight no matter what the size or agility of the other dog. NO MATTER WHAT.
THE RULE OF THUMB IN PIT BULL OWNERSHIP- NEVER TRUST YOUR PIT BULL NOT TO FIGHT!!!!! This breed is descended from pit dogs one way or another, and, given the right circumstances, most Pit Bulls will fight and against any other breed, they will win (you really don't want to see that!). Scared yet? You should be. Remember, as the owner of a Pit Bull everything you or your dog do will affect all members of the breed and their families. Pit Bull owners have to be extra vigilant 24/7, period.
Pits were never intended to be agressive to people but they dont play well with other dogs and require supervision when they are being socialized with other dogs.
A pregnant female pit is not different that a pregnant woman! Hormonal and cranky and it sounds to me like your brother's lab instigated it with her approach she should have been stopped that instant and taken away. the lab was asserting dominance. The lab was unstable energy and this made your Pitt react. I cannot say exactly what happened but it seems to me the Lab acted and the Pit reacted.
I do know what you should do now. You have to start findind a good no kill shelter or rescue for the pups. You cannot handle the pups and the mom TRUST ME. Even good Pitt breeders have a hard time. DO NOT. I MEAN DO NOT advertise to sell them in a local paper or give them to a good home. There are a small specific type of people who look for pitts as pets they are either people who know about them and have a history rasing them or they are the unsavory kind of people who breed them or fight them. It is hard for pitts to be put in good homes because of the bad rap given to them. Breed restriction placed on pits make them low on the popularity poll. And they are not generally good with other dogs unsupervised.
What many dont know is the positives of owning a Pit. A well-raised pit bull of proper temperament is the most loyal and loving dog in the world, bar none. This is a dog that truly LOVES people, especially children. Pits are notorious clowns, and will Always make you laugh, even in spite of yourself. They are intelligent, and will often "invent" games to keep themselves amused. They seem to subsist on love and attention, and will do almost anything for a little special "loves n hugs" time. They tolerate the rough play of children, loving every minute of it, and, although poor "guard dogs" for property, they will willingly give their lives to save the people they love. Thousands of responsible owners have dedicated themselves to this breed for it's positive traits and willingly deal with the negatives. However you have a pregnant Pitt and now you can determine what happens to the pups now. Make it be the best you can do for them.
If you cannot take care of her and the situation worsens. Make some calls to your local NO KILL shelters and RESCUE groups to see if you can surrender her. There is no shame in doing what is best for your pet. In the future make sure you do not put her in a positon to defend herself or you. She was confronted and she reacted. This does not make her a bad dog or even a fighter just a pregnant dog protecting herself and in her mind perhaps even you.
The reason sheis exihbiting agressive behaviour is because the conflict was not resolved. And normally for any other breed I would recommend bringing them back together on leashes and making them socialize and bribe them with treats and resolve the conflict. NOT IN THIS CASE. DEFINITELY NOT A PITT AND IN A MILLION YEARS NOT A PREGNANT ONE.
Good Luck and keep us posted on what happens
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the only absolute correct statement above is that they are a powerful breed.
low to the ground? depends on the dog's height but a correctly built pit actually has fairly long legs.
developed for blood sports? sure BUT not JUST for blood sports....
power to kill? depends on the opponent which leads me to the biggest fallacy
pit bulls are NOT some supernaturally endowed fighting machine. I watched helplessly as a mastiff tore a pit bull to pieces..killing her. her owner and I fought the dog but it was too late.
those kinds of words seriously endanger the breed. what IS correct is this
when a fight starts, the pit will more often than not NOT STOP TRYING to win. that is the trait they call game.
the bit about shelters....hmm...honestly the chances of finding a shelter that isn't full that will even take pit pups is slim to none.
and even if he could...imho that is irresponsible in the extreme.
why bog down ALREADY overburdened shelter workers with HIS mistake?
and...the bit about the breeders is pretty innaccurate.
maybe Spicy will stop by this thread and fill us in...
Just wondering.....do you have any advice for the Pit owner in question??? What should she do next? If she chooses to give up the Pitt what are her options...? I am a novice to this forum but not to Dog ownership is general. I grew up around Pit Bulls. My family owned quite a few. I have had very good experiences with them and in fact the bad ones were to be blamed on the people invloved. Its great to critic my observation and point of examples that Pits can be killed in a fight also. I never said they cant be....But what about some actual help for the person who is asking for advice???? Just wondering Jump in here anytime with some pointers for her. Shelters being full may be true....but there are plently of rescues which will help place the Pit is foster care until birth of pups and adoption.
I am simply trying to point out that she does have options. Whether you agree with me or if my statements are accurate to your standards I am after all not reporting for the NY Times here! It would be helpful to the person asking for help if you focused more on her problem than disagreeing with my views. Thnaks a lot.
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suzette, I'm very sure your post was meant to be positive ...thank you
But I will have to agree with Zim that is was full of inaccuracies......
I think zim touched on most of them...and IMO a good breeder of any kind should have little to no problem placing their pups
Also its Pit Bull.....With only one T.......
also zim did offer quite a bit of advice...you just need to go back in the thread...she some really great PB links.
...thank you But I will have to agree with Zim that is was full of inaccuracies......
I think zim touched on most of them...and IMO a good breeder of any kind should have little to no problem placing their pups
Also its Pit Bull.....With only one T.......
also zim did offer quite a bit of advice...you just need to go back in the thread...she some really great PB links.
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