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Need help deciding if Pom breeder is reputable

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Hi,

So I've been doing a lot of research trying to find a reputable pom breeder. Wanted a couple of opinions on these particular ones:

http://www.impressivepom.com/
http://www.parkerspreciouspoms.com/

Also, open to suggestions too for different breeders

Thanks!
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I wouldn't choose either of them. First breeder allows buyers to breed however they'd like, according to the contract. That, to me, does not indicate any consideration for the fate of her animals or for the breed. Second breeder's only health testing for dams seems to be whether or not they are 'good mothers and good breeders' and for sires, brucellosis test? Or maybe it's just that one male?

Neither kennel health tests as extensively as I would like. Admittedly, I am no pom expert. But luxating patella is a common thing, I think....

I did a quick search and wow, it is so different searching for reputable toy dog breeders compared to working dog breeders, but I like the looks of this one more in terms of the testing and showing they do: http://tinyprints.wixsite.com/pomeranians/available-poms-and-upcoming-litters

Overall, for a toy breed and a pet dog, if I were to go the breeder route my main concern would be their reputation for producing healthy, sound, long lived animals, and for consistent health testing. I would imagine that is easier to do for breeds where drive and working ability aren't even a concern?

(Also as an aside, it appalls me how few breeders have professional looking or organized websites.)

Best of luck in your search!
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Not a Pom person but both sites have a lot of red flags to me.

Anytime there is stuff like "From champion lines" "Sired by champion" ect it puts me off.

Out of both sites I see one dog that has had a few health tests.

No clue as to APRI vs AKC showing and titles.

First site breeds Pom's, French Bulldogs and Miniature horses , huge red flag for me.

2nd site seems to have a lot of breeding stock for a hobby breeder, most hobby breeders I know have a littler every 1 or 2 years not a litter every 2 or 3 months. They still have puppies from last littler and are expecting there next little march 22 to 27th. No real hobby breeder is doing this.
[...](Also as an aside, it appalls me how few breeders have professional looking or organized websites.)[...]
I've got to say, I am enamored with my breeder...but I'd love to redesign that website. It definitely looks like Geopages circa 2002 :laugh:

When researching any specific breed, I would enlist the help of that breed's club for your region. They should be able to get you in touch with the right people, and in my experience are super friendly and welcoming, because they love that breed as much as you do!
Oh right, also wanted to mention the fact that "from Ch lines" means absolutely nothing to me, and I would rather see the parents themselves have titles. If 'somewhere' there is a champion in the line, it tells me the breeder bought a fancy dog or used a fancy stud once and now sees it as a free pass to call all her litters special. If the breeder is TITLING her dog, it indicates she is interested in continuing to test her dogs' temperament and structure. IE, the breeder is still working hard for her dogs and her breed, not just making dough off some far gone letters.
Alisa♥;5099681 said:
I've got to say, I am enamored with my breeder...but I'd love to redesign that website. It definitely looks like Geopages circa 2002 :laugh:

When researching any specific breed, I would enlist the help of that breed's club for your region. They should be able to get you in touch with the right people, and in my experience are super friendly and welcoming, because they love that breed as much as you do!
Out of curiosity I was searching for more pom. breeders for the OP. One site started blasting bubbly music... and the music changed depending on which tab you clicked...
This is my "favorite" dog breeder site of all time (watch out, it makes noise): http://www.irenaspomeranians.com/

(I wouldn't buy from that breeder, but I know a lot of great breeders with bad sites... many good breeders tend to be older and not very web-savvy.)

I would not buy from anyone who uses terms like "from champion lines." It's meaningless. All champions produce some pet-quality puppies; my papillon, for example, has two champion parents, yet she has a couple of minor faults that make her unsuitable for breeding (which is why she became my pet and not part of the breeder's next generation of show/breeding dogs). The fact that a dog may have had a champion grandparent or great-grandparent on one side (or even both) says nothing about the quality of that dog itself or the puppies it may produce.

AKC registration also means little besides that the dog is a purebred.

I also side-eye breeders who mix and match only their own dogs. They expect me to believe that they own dogs that complement each other perfectly? I've watched my papillon's breeder pore over stud dog pedigrees, researching their ancestors and their offspring, checking their health and longevity, carefully considering their strengths and weaknesses and how they could bolster her dogs' strengths and mitigate their weaknesses. She wants to ensure that she makes the best possible match on every breeding. Sure, breeders can breed in-house sometimes, but if that's all someone's doing, that's an issue.

Have you checked for breeders on the breed club site? I see that at least one of the breeders you asked about is in Washington; the breed club has several breeders listed for that state. http://www.americanpomeranianclub.org/member_roster.htm

Here's a show breeder who does OFA, CERF, and thyroid testing: http://www.crpoms.com/
This breeder is also an AKC judge: http://www.bi-mar.com/
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I didn't catch the sarcasm with your posted link for quite a few minutes.... :D
Hi,

So I've been doing a lot of research trying to find a reputable pom breeder. Wanted a couple of opinions on these particular ones:

http://www.impressivepom.com/
http://www.parkerspreciouspoms.com/

Also, open to suggestions too for different breeders

Thanks!
I wouldn't go with either of the breeders you mentioned. American Pet Registry, Inc. (APRI) and the Continental Kennel Club (usually abbreviated CKC, but more properly ContKC, since CKC is actually the Canadian Kennel Club) are registries set up by and for the commercial dog breeding industry (for want of a better term). They were designed to circumvent the AKC's limited registration and Frequently Used Sires rules.

Are you in the US? If so, contact the American Pomeranian Club for a breeder referral.
http://www.americanpomeranianclub.org/
Thank you all so much for the feedback. Definitely will be doing more research on more reputable breeders from the American Pomeranian Club, etc.
I know this was originally asked several years ago but in case anyone else stumbles here and is wondering…DO NOT buy a dog from Impressive Poms. I had the misfortune of dealing with Cherilyn and I was completely deceived. Her biggest offense was that she gave me a puppy with a grade 3 heart murmur and didn’t bother to tell me my puppy had a heart defect. When I sent pictures of my puppy and updated her with the news I got from my vet (not in an accusatory or harsh way at all, just a “here’s an update” type way) she ghosted me. Secondly, I knew as soon as I laid eyes on my puppy in person when I went to get him, that I’d been deceived about the future size of my puppy. She told me he would “be on the larger end for a Pomeranian-7lbs”. I knew that was a complete and utter lie as soon as a saw him. He is double that as an adult now and he is not overweight or over fed, he’s a bigger statured Pom. He’s got big ears, a flat coat, and he’s about 15lbs. Just a horribly, horribly bred Pomeranian. And thirdly, he just turned 5 on April 1st and in December at his biannual vet appointment, he was diagnosed with tracheal collapse. I’m devastated. We’re looking at possible surgery and tens of thousands of dollars in the course of the rest of his lifetime to help him. He’s only 5!! He has never ever been walked with a collar, only a harness, because I know how delicate a Pomeranian’s trachea is. Yet again, we are seeing issues due to genetics and poor breeding. So if you are considering Impressive Poms, look elsewhere or you could end up heartbroken like me.
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Your feedback is appreciated! I'm sorry you had to go through that, and am wishing you and your boy the best going forward. I am going to close this thread due to how old it is, but of course you're welcome to participate in any current discussions, or start a new thread about your pup if you'd like!
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