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I'm new to this forums...*waves to everyone*

As usual, let's get the background info out.
I got Stardust on March 13th. She is my first dog. She is 5 months old, "What breed is she?" type of dog. Don't ask what breed, I have no idea, seriously. She's a smallish dog, 1 foot tall. I named her Stardust after the old Casino that was demolished. It fits her.

Now the dreaded issue: Potty training...I think I need more assurance that I'm doing it right, it's just going to take time.

* Overnight, we put her in a crate at 11pm for bedtime. It doesn't matter what time we go to bed, she is put in the crate at the same time every night. She never had an accident in the crate. She is also crated if we leave the house or cannot supervise her for whatever reason.

* In the mornings, she is taken outside to go potty. We use the words, "Go Potty!", and give her cooked chicken (we have tried other treats as motivation, and it had erratic results, but she always eat the chicken so we stick with that), every time she pees and/or poops.

* No matter what time we take her out the first time, she always eat breakfast at 7am. Half hour later, she goes out again to go potty (at this time, she usually poops). We also say, "Want to go out?" She normally responds to this by wagging her tail and getting excited and head to the door.
* Stardust is taken outside every 3 hours

* For dinner at 7pm, the same thing happens as it was for breakfast.
* She is taken out one last time before 11pm.

The problem? She STILL has little "happy accidents". I *know* she can hold it for more than 3 hours. If 3 1/2 hours go by, she will pee in the house. Yesterday, it was barely 10 minutes after the 3 hours time, and she pooped and peed.

Occasionally if our Den's door is closed, she'll stand by the door, but no auditory response or anything. She just stands there waiting for me to take her out. The way our den is set up, we cannot see her by the door because our couch is in the way. It's a little bit of a pain not being able to see her. This is why she peed/pooped as stated above.

There has been a period of 3 days this week that she was so good, then the last two days she had accidents. Today, it was barely passed 1 hour after her last pee, she peed in the house. She doesn't "TELL" us. We need a way for her to tell us that she needs to go out. She doesn't give us any warning (sniffing around for a spot, anxious type of behavior etc). The cute thing (well, I think it is), she gives us such a guilty look afterwards.

In closing, I feel that we're doing everything right (we do try to watch her like a hawk, but it only takes one minute of undivided attention), and that it's just going to take some time. Some dogs takes longer to be potty trained, others in a short time. Am I right about this?

She only barks at my cats, never at other dogs or other humans, so barking is out of the question. I'm deaf, so to have to always depend on hearing the bell doesn't really help too much (although I can hear well, but sometimes I don't wear my Cochlear Implants). So this is why I need more of a visual cue.

Any help or assurance? Thanks for listening...and I apologize for a long winding post, I just wanted to be sure I covered all bases.
 

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I'm new to this forums...*waves to everyone*

As usual, let's get the background info out.
I got Stardust on March 13th. She is my first dog. She is 5 months old, "What breed is she?" type of dog. Don't ask what breed, I have no idea, seriously. She's a smallish dog, 1 foot tall. I named her Stardust after the old Casino that was demolished. It fits her.

Now the dreaded issue: Potty training...I think I need more assurance that I'm doing it right, it's just going to take time.

* Overnight, we put her in a crate at 11pm for bedtime. It doesn't matter what time we go to bed, she is put in the crate at the same time every night. She never had an accident in the crate. She is also crated if we leave the house or cannot supervise her for whatever reason.

* In the mornings, she is taken outside to go potty. We use the words, "Go Potty!", and give her cooked chicken (we have tried other treats as motivation, and it had erratic results, but she always eat the chicken so we stick with that), every time she pees and/or poops.

* No matter what time we take her out the first time, she always eat breakfast at 7am. Half hour later, she goes out again to go potty (at this time, she usually poops). We also say, "Want to go out?" She normally responds to this by wagging her tail and getting excited and head to the door.
* Stardust is taken outside every 3 hours

* For dinner at 7pm, the same thing happens as it was for breakfast.
* She is taken out one last time before 11pm.

The problem? She STILL has little "happy accidents". I *know* she can hold it for more than 3 hours. If 3 1/2 hours go by, she will pee in the house. Yesterday, it was barely 10 minutes after the 3 hours time, and she pooped and peed.

Occasionally if our Den's door is closed, she'll stand by the door, but no auditory response or anything. She just stands there waiting for me to take her out. The way our den is set up, we cannot see her by the door because our couch is in the way. It's a little bit of a pain not being able to see her. This is why she peed/pooped as stated above.

There has been a period of 3 days this week that she was so good, then the last two days she had accidents. Today, it was barely passed 1 hour after her last pee, she peed in the house. She doesn't "TELL" us. We need a way for her to tell us that she needs to go out. She doesn't give us any warning (sniffing around for a spot, anxious type of behavior etc). The cute thing (well, I think it is), she gives us such a guilty look afterwards.

In closing, I feel that we're doing everything right (we do try to watch her like a hawk, but it only takes one minute of undivided attention), and that it's just going to take some time. Some dogs takes longer to be potty trained, others in a short time. Am I right about this?

She only barks at my cats, never at other dogs or other humans, so barking is out of the question. I'm deaf, so to have to always depend on hearing the bell doesn't really help too much (although I can hear well, but sometimes I don't wear my Cochlear Implants). So this is why I need more of a visual cue.

Any help or assurance? Thanks for listening...and I apologize for a long winding post, I just wanted to be sure I covered all bases.
Sounds like you are doing fine. Just keep being consistent and be patient. Accidents will happen. If you catch her in the act of going in the wrong place correct her with a simple, firm no and take her outside to finish. Then praise. Be sure you clean up with an enzyme cleaner to destroy the odor at the molecular level. You might also want to keep a journal. This will tell you whether or not you need to adjust your schedule. And, if you note details such as, for example, whether poop is solid, mushy, liquid, your journal can be a great source of helpful information for your vet.
 

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Don't worry. You're not alone. I'm attempting pretty much the same thing with my 10 week old (except for the crating at night. He seems to be able to hold it for an absurdly long time.) We can do it!
 

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Don't worry. You're not alone. I'm attempting pretty much the same thing with my 10 week old (except for the crating at night. He seems to be able to hold it for an absurdly long time.) We can do it!
I sometimes feel so frustrated because there has been a period of 4 days accident free, now I'm seeing accidents once a day....today was a really bad day...3 accidents! :( It just sucks sometimes, and I'm really hoping that this gets resolved soon. The first accident today I just didn't see her go to the door. We have a door in the den that stays closed so I can keep an eye on her, but I have a difficult time seeing her over the couch. If I don't respond or anything she will pee. She doesn't bark, she doesn't circle around, she doesn't get my attention whatsoever. She just stands by the door expecting it will magically open. The second time, the fiance just left the door open, and was not watching her. The third time today, was right after she was bathed...she tend to go really nuts on the couch (rubbing her nose in, like rolling in dirt after dogs take a bath kind of behavior). All of sudden, she left the room, and I was chasing her to the den...boom, she peed within 5 sec.
But....I can never get mad at my little cute dog. She's SO cute when she "knows" she made a boo-boo by putting her head down and just curling up next to me. Darn it...she knows how to tug my heart strings. :)
I enrolled her to obedience classes, and I'm really hoping that it will help me to train her a bit better, and get this dang thing resolved.

I always seem to have doubts - "Am I doing it right? Is she just aloof?" etc etc. I had her checked by vet, clean bill of health.

So, yeah...we both are in the same shoes ISaidNoSprinkles. :)
 

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Let's see if all things were that simple you would have a 6 month old baby that you could leave crawl/walk around home all day with no diaper and every once in a while baby would approach and say mom/dad I got to relieve myself would you now put my diaper on me and when I'm done you can take it off. You have as much a chance of that happening as you do with your brand new puppy telling you I have to got out. You just got the pup on the 13th. switch to an hrly take out during day and when you are busy and pup is unsupervised during day he is crated. Your pup actually is doing quite well it's you that are short in puppy rearing. It's a puppy not a rocket scientist. Your crate is your main weapon when you are to busy to pay full attention to pup.
 

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Stardust, if there's one thing I've read about housetraining is that it's always 2 steps forward, 1 step back. 4 days is great! 1 day of accidents I would accept if Waldo did that, haha. He's gotten to the point where he can hold it, but still isn't sure that he can't do it inside. I'm learning that patience and a good carpet cleaner and brush are the best tools.

The first accident today I just didn't see her go to the door. We have a door in the den that stays closed so I can keep an eye on her, but I have a difficult time seeing her over the couch. If I don't respond or anything she will pee. She doesn't bark, she doesn't circle around, she doesn't get my attention whatsoever. She just stands by the door expecting it will magically open. The second time, the fiance just left the door open, and was not watching her. The third time today, was right after she was bathed...she tend to go really nuts on the couch (rubbing her nose in, like rolling in dirt after dogs take a bath kind of behavior). All of sudden, she left the room, and I was chasing her to the den...boom, she peed within 5 sec.
I feel like I've been stalking my pup. Just got to be sure to try and watch her always, and if you can't for any reason at all, crate her and get a pair of ear plugs. Just make sure to take her out periodically if you can during that time to see if she has to go (that's what everyone has been telling me). Let's keep in touch with each other's progress and we can support each other through it. She'll learn. Just takes time.


Let's see if all things were that simple you would have a 6 month old baby that you could leave crawl/walk around home all day with no diaper and every once in a while baby would approach and say mom/dad I got to relieve myself would you now put my diaper on me and when I'm done you can take it off. You have as much a chance of that happening as you do with your brand new puppy telling you I have to got out. You just got the pup on the 13th. switch to an hrly take out during day and when you are busy and pup is unsupervised during day he is crated. Your pup actually is doing quite well it's you that are short in puppy rearing. It's a puppy not a rocket scientist. Your crate is your main weapon when you are to busy to pay full attention to pup.
This is a GREAT point. I've never thought of it that way. I mean, you wouldn't rub a baby's nose in it would you?
 

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As best I can tell, you're doing everything right. Just be patient, and be glad you're not cleaning up after a St. Bernard.
 

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I would like to add on to Stardust's question if he doesn't mind (as it would benefit both of us).

When (and then of course how) do you start teaching them how to let you know when they need to go out? Granted I've only had mine a week (Stardust a month if I'm not mistaken), but I know I'm anxious to start that process as well.
 

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I would like to add on to Stardust's question if he doesn't mind (as it would benefit both of us).

When (and then of course how) do you start teaching them how to let you know when they need to go out? Granted I've only had mine a week (Stardust a month if I'm not mistaken), but I know I'm anxious to start that process as well.
"She" -hee hee - I started teaching Stardust the day I brought her home. I simply took Stardust out and said the magic words, "Go Potty!", and get excited if she does go. After a couple days, Stardust knows what "Go Potty" means. Stardust will wait by the door, and wait for me to take her out. This is where I get a little lost because I can't see the door 100% of the time, and if I don't see her within a minute of her waiting there, she will have an accident.

I have tried doing the treats every time, but then she started to stop taking the treats (they're tasty too!). I talked to my vet, and he recommended that I find a treat that I will ONLY specifically use for "Go Potty", than any other treats for tricks or other training. This is where the chicken comes in play. Now, I say, "Do you need to go outside? Want to go for a Walk?" etc. Stardust usually wags her tail, and comes to me (which is a big improvement from just standing at the door expecting it will magically open), then go to the fridge since she knows she will get chicken if she potties.

I've been doing this for two weeks now, and it's getting better. 5 days ago, she was being bad...I think she was holding a grudge against me. One, I had to put her in the crate a little too often than I wanted. I needed to do the cleaning around the house, and when I want her out, she gets too hyper and won't settle down, so I needed her to calm down, crate it is. I needed to do my projects for school, so she was in the crate. I haven't taken her to the dog park for almost a week during that time. She was bad and decided to have 4 accidents in one day! Grr. :) Teenagers!

So far, knock on wood, there has been 3 days accident free. I think it's starting to click in her head, and the fact that I've been watching her like a HAWK (a lot more careful watching than I did in the past).

Hope your potty training gets better. Stardust is going to attend obedience class soon. I was told that the class (even Basic Puppy classes), will help Stardust learn commands better and more bonding. I'm also hoping that I can teach her how to visually get my attention (since I'm deaf, I don't want her barking or scratching the door...it's not going to get my attention).
 

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I'm also hoping that I can teach her how to visually get my attention (since I'm deaf, I don't want her barking or scratching the door...it's not going to get my attention).
They should make a strobe light button that she could push. Every time there's a disco you know to take her out. haha.
 

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My almost 4 month old Aussie can't hold it in very long during the day, due to getting excited and playing, but he can hold it in over night until about 6 - 6:30 a.m.

Pups eventually grow up and learn their housebreaking, but it does seem like a long, long time.

I didn't remember my first Aussie taking this long, but she probably did and I don't remember it.

are you *serious*? I don't think so. Picking up poo is a life of a dog owner. Suck it up.
Not even as bad as human diaper changing, IMO...yes, gotta suck it up.
 

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Well, i think it an innovative gadget that can help both dog and its owner. Just like someone has invented toilet flushing system and we have used it to improve our lifestyle. And we cant expect to hear ppls saying digging shit hole is a life of being a human :)
 
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