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early this morning my small dog was attacked by a bigger dog. He clamped onto his face and my dogs eyeball protruded out and was extremley inflamed, red and bloody. It looked like something out of a horror movie. It grew 3x bigger and I saw it grow into a huge opaque red globe in a matter of minutes.

I rushed him to ER and he was wailing. I couldnt sleep at all last night and i was in total disbelief that my sweet little boy was attacked and was about to lose his eye. I couldnt bear to see his pictures, his crate.. other people walking their dogs. It's so painful.

The overnight doctor told me that there was no choice but nucleation, taking out his eye and sewing the empty cavity shut. He said dogs with one eye live full happy lives, regardless of their physical handicap.

It really killed me to see kintaro like that.

This morning at 8am the surgery doctor (different doctor) came in and told me he was moving his eye!!! I could see the red ball (which was his eye) move! it's incredible, the doctor said he was very surprised. Since kintaro is such a young dog, only a year and a half he may have a good chance of keeping his eye since movement means that his muscle tissue is still intact. The doctor decided to push the eyeball back in by cutting the corners of his eyes and then suturing the whole eye back up.

He is in his crate now, on medication and a cone for 2 weeks and is sleeping. I am so relieved he is home.

Is there anyone out there that has been through this? Could you provide me some insight on how to handle this situation. I am so happy hes back in my arms, I couldn't help but think he wouldn't love me anymore, or people would make fun of him because he has one eye.

The dog that attacked him was my boyfriends moms dog who is extremly jealous. I was petting Max, the other dog, and without warning he snapped on kintaro, my small poodle who came up to cautiously sniff his feet. I feel so guilty and that I could've prevented it just by picking up kintaro or ignoring max or doing something!!!! I had no idea Max was so jealous, no one ever told me anything. every time I came to visit my boyfriend, max would be fine with kintaro and would ignore him. I just stood there in horror and i had to kick max off of kintaro and kintaro ran into the room wailing. everything was so fast, the attack, going to the hospital and him being home with me and I am in disbelief still, sad and happy.

I don't know what happens next. After 2 weeks they will open up the eye and see if it falls out (that's what he literally said). If its still intact they can save it but they dont know how much vision loss he's had since he also has a puncture on his eye as well.

Please keep kintaro in your thoughts. And anything experience, suggestions would be wonderful. Thank you.

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I've never been through anything like that and hope I never will have to be. That is just awful. I am glad there was some good news, though. Please keep us updated, Kintaro will be in my thoughts!
 

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I know exactly what you are going through. Last year my own Toy Poodle, Pood, was accidentally left out of his crate with our big dogs for a few hours and he was bitten in the head by one of them. When I arrived home his right eye was a swollen, bloody mass as you described. I had to rush him to our vet for an emergency appointment after hours where he was looked over, given pain medications and kept overnight for observation. He came home knocked out and wasn't himself for some time.

I was soon refered to a veterinary opthamologist who practices two hours away who we traveled to so she could treat Pood for over 6 months with special examinations and medications. The blood in his eye reabsorbed and the swelling went away. (She did not have to cut the corners of his eye to push the swollen eye back in, nor did she suture the eye shut.) Eventually his eye lost all pressure and it is now a small, cloudy blue orb. When this started to happen my concern was that being so small and mushy (lacking pressure) the eye would fall out, however the specialist told me that would not happen. As the eye is not causing him any discomfort, I opted to not have it enucleated. Know that there are other options after enucleation for some dogs other than having the socket sutured shut, such as having a false eye put in the socket. One eyed dogs should also have regular exams to be sure the remaining eye is not having problems.

Pood is 9 years old and has adjusted to having the use of only one eye just fine. He sometimes bumps into things on his blind side, but now that he's better he still trains in Agility and Rally O. No one makes fun of him, and he still loves everyone he meets (even our dog who bit him). That said, I strongly suggest you to find a veterinary opthamolgist to treat your dog and wish you both the best of luck.
 

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thank you miss mutt. I didn't think the eye would be saved, it looked beyond that point. My boyfriend kept hoping and praying and I kept saying whats done was done any higher hopes would crush me if it didn't go through. But he was right.

kintaro is so sweet, he would not hurt anyone or anything. He is my shy little boy who knows his small size and I can't believe that happend to him. It made me angry and frustrated that bad things happen to especially good dogs!!.

He is constantly at my side, under my supervision. He is as cautious as cat and yet this still happened. I cannot blame anything or anyone but myself.

I know exactly what you are going through. Last year my own Toy Poodle, Pood, was accidentally left out of his crate with our big dogs for a few hours and he was bitten in the head by one of them. When I arrived home his right eye was a swollen, bloody mass as you described. I had to rush him to our vet at 9 pm where he was looked over, given pain medications and kept overnight for observation. He came home knocked out and wasn't himself for some time.

I was soon refered to a veterinary opthamologist who treated Pood for over 6 months with special examinations and medications. The blood in his eye reabsorbed and the swelling went away. Eventually his eye lost all pressure and it is now a small, cloudy blue orb. When this started to happen my concern was that being so small and mushy (lacking pressure) the eye would fall out, however the specialist told that would not happen. As the eye is not causing him any discomfort, I opted to not have it enucleated.

Pood is 9 years old and has adjusted to having the use of only one eye just fine. He sometimes bumps into things on his blind side, but now that he's better he still trains in Agility and Rally O. No one makes fun of him, and he still loves everyone he meets (even our dog who bit him). That said, I strongly suggest you to find a veterinary opthamolgist to treat your dog and wish you both the best of luck.
Thank you pampered pups. i am so happy to hear your pood is fine. That really brings up my spirits.

How does his eye look? Is it smaller than what it was before? Is treatment painful and expensive? does it look like a cataract or completely different?

I am at tears to know that your dog is still so loving and happy. I am concerned that this memory will be with kintaro forever and i don't want it to change anything. I love him regardless and i hope he lives a full happy life.
 

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This happened to my cousin's Treeing Walker puppy when their Chesapeake Bay Retriever attacked him. The walker's eye actually popped out of socket, though, and was unable to be saved.
I hope your little boy heals fast!!! Like others said, if he does lose the eye he should cope just fine.
 

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I don't have any useful advice or insight, but I just wanted to say I'm so sorry to hear about your baby. I hope he recovers completely and gets better soon. Poor thing. Don't beat yourself up about it though, all the shoulda-woulda-couldas in the world won't change what happened and you did the best that you could. I'm sure you're a great dog owner and this does not change that. Good luck and keep us updated.
 

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Pood's treatment cost about $1000. He had several visits with the specialist and was on many pain and eye meds. The eye is smaller now and the entire surface looks similar to a cataract, cloudy blue, but with no pupil or iris visible. The pressure is unreadably low.

Did Kintaro's eye come completely out of the socket? If not, it concerns me that the vet would cut the eye area, force the enlarged eye into the socket and suture it shut. I do hope you can find a veterinary opthamologist to consult with soon.

I would start your search for more information here: http://www.acvo.com
 

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It's called proptusis, IIRC, and here's a good article about a case here - http://vetontheedge.blogspot.com/2008/11/horror-show-eyes.html

All that said, even if he DOES end up losing the eye, he'll cope fine.
Thank u dogstar that was a great article. very well written.

Corgimama and Max's human thank you, it is very difficult. I've read a lot of people go through this...it is just so painful to see it. Max's human, thank you, things especially like this make me feel like a terrible owner.

and pampered pups thank you so much. Yes the eyeball was still intact and they decided to put it back in because the doctor saw major movement in the globe. I will def. be going to an opthamologist. Can you tell me why there is concern for keeping the intact eye back into the socket? are there bad implications to this? How did they save your poods eye?

Is there anything I can do for him? He looks so depressed, he just sits there. he responds to treats very well. Is it okay if I leave him alone at the most 2 hours in his crate? i wish I could stay with him but I am starting class on monday, I will come back in between and my boyfriend can come and watch him too but he will have to be alone 2 hours every other day.

I am afraid to compress his eye with a wash cloth. The vet suggests i do this with cold water, twice a day for 5 minutes and then after 2 days use warm water. But i tried moving some fur form his goopey bruised eye and he really did not like it.
 

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OMG, that's...terrible!:(
I'll be praying for Kintaro. Hope he'll be okay withone eye.
 

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My sister's dog was blinded in one eye when he was younger. It wasn't from a dog attack...he was running through some brush. But I just wanted you to know that even if your sweet dog loses sight in that eye, he will cope just fine. Bridger acts like any other dog. They're resilient and Kintaro will probably bounce back like nothing ever happened.

And YOU have to forgive yourself. There's nothing you could've done. You can't see into the future and as they say, hindsight is 20/20.

HUGS!
 

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A similar thing happened to my aunt's cat recently... one of their neighbor's dogs escaped from his pen (again, might I add) and found their poor cat Piggy.
My aunt heard some commotion outside her window, and found Piggy in this dog's mouth, being shaken around like a rag doll.
She managed to get the dog to drop Piggy, and she rushed her to the vet, where they were able to put all of her little organs back into her body and sew her up.
After being on a LOT of medication and rest, piggy is doing fine, but its scary to see the damage that was done.
Fortunately, the owners paid for all the vet bills and were extremely apologetic. Had they not done so, I would have encouraged my Aunt to press charges. That dog has a history of being aggressive and escaping the fence... its a good thing, for the sake of the dog, that he attacked a cat, and not a child. The owners need to work something out in order to keep the dog and those around him safe.

But Im so glad that your dog may have the chance of keeping his eye- good luck!
 

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Do the compresses, I know they will uncomfortable for the dog, but in the long run it will be better for him. Remember that you are helping the dog in the long run, try not to think about the short term pain you may have tp cause him. Be sure you give him lots of loving after so he doesn't associate you with pain all the time.
 

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Had that happen to my brother's Cocker. The vet put the eye back and stitched the lid shut for 2 weeks. When stitches came out, dog could see, and appeared to be ok.
 

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I can not imagin any one making fun of your dog, if he only had one eye. I know by your writing you and your dog are so very close. My neighbors dog got some kind of infection and had to have one eye removed and they sutured the eye closed. It did not look that noticeable, and the dog took it the best. As long as he got his food and lots of love and play time, it was like it never happened.
Things can happen so fast it was totally out of your control, not to blame yourself!! But I am paranoid now that I have two small dogs, that I will never lets a large dog get any where near my dogs for just that reason.
 

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I hope everything goes well for your dog. I think that dogs adjust better to handicaps than humans. My wife told me about her grandparents dog that lost a leg due to a farming acident.He went thru life with three legs as tho he had four.For your sake,I hope your dog will be ok.
 

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Do the compresses, I know they will uncomfortable for the dog, but in the long run it will be better for him. Remember that you are helping the dog in the long run, try not to think about the short term pain you may have tp cause him. Be sure you give him lots of loving after so he doesn't associate you with pain all the time.
I just finished my first compression this morning, he took it a lot better than i expected. He is a little champ. Thank you for your insight schellenberger you are absolutely right I should think about the long run.

Last night i couldn't sleep and just started to cry. nothing really gets to me but when it comes to Kintaro I would stop everything for him.

It took me two days of disbelief and then last night i had to let it all out. I'm glad it is not more severe than this, things could be worse.

After I compressed his eye all the thick bloody goop came off across his eye, although there is still a lot left on the side of his face. I'm so happy I can see his little eyelid and lashes and what made me even happier was feeling his little eyeball move across my fingers when I was lightly pressing the towel on his face. It felt incredible.

His eye area is a deep purple and still a pretty good sized welt, although nothing compared to what it was when I picked him up from the hospital. The picture is taken with my camera phone and the bad quality really masks how painful it looks in real life.

Thank you Bob, I think I would get in a fist fight if someone made fun of him anyway, I avoid confrontation and keep things to myself. But if someone said anything as a whisper, I'd be throwing hands!!

Yes please be careful around big dogs, they are so strong compared to the little ones. Not to say there aren't gentle ones out there but accidents, like in my case, do happen. Jealousy is a huge issue as well, I went Into the shelter some of the dogs were so deprived of attention that they snapped at other dogs constantly. The dog who attacked mine is very well taken care of and very spoiled. I have been feeding him lately and I think he grew attached to me and very possessive. My boyfriends mom said she wanted to give him away because she couldnt stop thinking about the look on my face of that night when everything occurred and seeing Kintaro's eye swell up like a small balloon. Her husband had to plead her to not get rid of him and I told her she should keep him. I am not mad at anyone, I thought I would be but all I can do is spend as much time with Kintaro and show him how important he is to me. There is no time to be mad.

Thank you everyone for your stories and kind words. It is helping me think positively everyday and I'd be a mess without this board. Thank you






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