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Hi. I 'm new to this forum. I've been breeding Cavalier King Charles Spaniels for years. I have 3 females (1 spayed) and a great stud that has fathered many liters. I've had him for a year and he still won't breed my own females when they are in heat and obviously ready. I've had to go to a breeder friend of mine and use her studs. My stud is very good. He can tie with a female in less than a minute. He is very very persistent when he is around a female that is ready. With my females he will sniff and lick them but not really try to mount him. One of my females was here before he was but she is very laid back so I'm not sure why he won't try (they do like to wrestle and play together a lot) and he at least tries to mount her but not with much enthusiasim. My other female came after him so I figured he would feel higher up in the pack but he won't even try and mount her. When he is home he is like a baby, and is more interested in me snuggling him, etc... than the girls. It's interesting too because my spayed female is the oldest, and he basically took over as pack leader by fighting her for it (she's afraid of him), but he still must not feel dominant over the other bitches (but dominant enough to steal and keep all the treats for himself). I'm frustrated because I'm not sure what his problem is, or if he will ever change.

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He's a great stud? What health tests have you done? CKCS are a breed riddled with Health issues, have he and the bitches you're breeding to been cleared for all of them or are you making the problem worse by breeding to whoever has the stud fee?
 

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I've done them. I'm very aware of all the tests. My best friend has been breeding Cavaliers for 10 years. Sorry, I'm not writing to discuss that kind of stuff. I'm not some back yard breeder. I've been using my friends studs up until now. My question in merely regarding the psychology of my stud--not his health standards, etc... I was under the assumption that people posting on these forums were reputable breeders. I'm very schooled in what I need to be a reputable breeder. My puppies have sold internationally, etc... But that doesn't mean I know everything about the psychology of my stud and the bitches he lives with--it's not a usual problem. And my dogs are like my children, they sleep in my bed, etc... so unlike many breeders, my dogs are not ignored mentally or physically. They are very, very well taken care of--health and everything
 

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you let your stud dog fight with your oldest spayed female until she is now scared of him and thats ok with you? my dogs are my children, and there is NO WAY that would EVER happen...
 

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The people on this forum are a collection of responsible dog owners, breeders and rescuers. Anyone coming here to discuss breeding will be asked these questions BECAUSE of who we are and what we stand for.
Yup! Be glad we're not all well versed in breeding issues, there's enough yahoos around doing so as I'm sure you're aware. Not even sure if there's people here who would have the experience in that really. There are other forums of course that have lots of questionable breeders who might help, but then again would want to use your boy on their poodles to make a buck, not the type you'd want to be around.... JMO.
 

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you let your stud dog fight with your oldest spayed female until she is now scared of him and thats ok with you? my dogs are my children, and there is NO WAY that would EVER happen...
When I joined this forum I didn't expect to be instantly attacked and judged by people who assume they know me and my dogs. They haven't ever fought per-say, my female is very shy. He's lived with us since he was 8 weeks. When he grew up she started backing away from him when there were treats and food ( I assumed that shes let him take over, being the only male). They've had about 2 tuffs by growling at each other (which I instantly stopped!) in the past prior to this over a treat ( and please don't tell me your dogs have never growled at each other). I am not here to talk about my female. I was hoping to get some help on the question I had. I appreciate that the people on this forum are concern. I am too. I can't stand the people that breed and have no idea what they are doing, are not responsible, and don't care about the health of the puppies, etc...

Rest assured I have done the tests.

Now with that out of the way, is there anyone here with this kind of experience regarding the psychology of why my male won't mate my own bitches?
 

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oh yay! I guess I can assume that your dog has been tested for syringomyelia and only bred under the SM protocols?
Again... please--if people need a health history report on their profile for each dog to join the forums then please do that on the register page. Can we get back to the question??
 

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Again... please--if people need a health history report on their profile for each dog to join the forums then please do that on the register page. Can we get back to the question??
Well- Im wondering what your mentor has said about this, since there was no mention of them in the original question. Please excuse me for wanting to make sure that I'm not advising an irresponsible breeder on how to breed...irresponsibly.
 

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Well- Im wondering what your mentor has said about this, since there was no mention of them in the original question. Please excuse me for wanting to make sure that I'm not advising an irresponsible breeder on how to breed...irresponsibly.
It's never happened with her. But she keeps her dogs separated a lot ( which is not my way)
 

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He is over 1.5 yrs. Studded about 6 liters. Even slipped pass us under the gate and tied a female in less than 30 seconds.
My mentor says to use her studs. But I want to use him. He is perfect
How old is "over 1.5 yrs"?

Is he over 2? Is he 10?

And if he isnt over 2.5 years, the MVD protocol states that you cannot determine that he is "perfect" at this point in time.
 

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He's less than 2 and studded 6 litters, including an oops litter? I need to go check my dictionary. Apparently, the definition of "responsibly" has been changed.
 

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He is over 1.5 yrs. Studded about 6 liters. Even slipped pass us under the gate and tied a female in less than 30 seconds.
My mentor says to use her studs. But I want to use him. He is perfect
If he's not over 2 he shouldn't be used as a stud. If he's not over 2 he shouldn't have produced ANY litters.
You do realize there is no such thing as "perfect". EVERY dog has their faults - and calling your dog perfect means kennel blindness.
It's a bad idea in any breed to breed so young - especially in a breed plagued by a pretty severe health problem. To with not breeding young dogs - I like to see bitches having their first litter ideally around 4.
I don't like seeing puppies producing puppies.

Apparently, the definition of "responsibly" has been changed.
I do like this :p
 

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He's less than 2 and studded 6 litters, including an oops litter? I need to go check my dictionary. Apparently, the definition of "responsibly" has been changed.
Due to MVD and SM in the breed, no dog should be bred before 2.5. This person really picked one of the best breeds to further toy around with *sigh*

http://www.cavalierhealth.org/smprotocol.htm
 

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Eapelu, talk about the 9th degree. Wow guys lighten up.

I am guessing your boy is not so much dominant over your bitches as you think.

I would try seperating him completely from the day any heat starts. Here I mean take either him or the bitch off the property until at least day 12 and then try. If you have no success there is always AI. Ask for a referal to a reproduction specialist vet.
 

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Eapelu, talk about the 9th degree. Wow guys lighten up.
Well, if you like perpetuating the breeding practices of a person who can't even follow the parent club recommendation on breeding age for diseases that are set in place to help attempt to ensure the health and soundness of the dogs being used to breed and those they produce from having a very severe, painful and detrimental condition that is prominent of the breed - then by all means, claim that we're giving the 9th degree.

Know then that you are promoting irresponsible breeding where we are promoting education to help stop things like using a dog at stud that could produce very unhealthy puppies.
 
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