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Miniature poodle or standard schanuzer

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Hello all.
I'm looking for a overall good family dog thats good with children.
Looking for easy to train dog , good watchdog.
Will take the dog to the groomer so either breeds won't bother me. They both don't shed!

I figured maybe the standard would be better cause they taller and good watchdog then the poodle. Dont made taking both dogs to doggy daycare to burn off there energy.

Any ideas suggestions?
Looking for a eager to please dog.
Not looking for the standard poodle due to size and weight.

Is the wiry hair on the schnauzer easier to brush then the mini poodle hair?
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It's a bummer that there aren't medium poodles (otherwise known as moyen, klein, mellom...) well established in the US. They fall between mini and standard poodles, and are a brilliant size for a small dog who's a bit bigger and sturdier than the minis. Sadly, there's very few reputable breeders of them in the US, because it's not a size recognized by the American Kennel Club or the United Kennel Club (though many reputable European kennel clubs do recognize it).

Poodles are in general very people-focused and eager to work with you. They're considered easy to train, but keep in mind that intelligence also means that they're good at learning things you don't mean to teach them, too... like how if they bark or paw at you you give them attention (any attention is good attention to many dog). Or how your jacket pockets sometimes have stray dog treats to root out. Or how to open the sliding glass door to the backyard. They do need to be kept mentally stimulated so they don't get in too much trouble.

Mine is a pretty good alert barker when he thinks something weird or exciting is going on. Height really doesn't make a big difference, imo - if they can't see the thing, they can hear it. My poodle always knew exactly when it was my wife coming up the stairs to our first apartment's door, despite being in a communal building with other people going up and down regularly.

Plenty of poodles make good family dogs, although it is important that you're aware that minis can be delicate and kids can't roughhouse or manhandle them. Definitely look for a breeder who is breeding dogs that are thriving in family setting and have a temperament and energy you enjoy. Even if the breeder is very excellent and reputable and producing wonderful, healthy dogs, it's a bad match if most of their dogs are going to competitive sports homes because they're high energy, intense, and need lots of exercise and stimulation.

But keep in mind that some dogs - even great dogs - don't do well in doggy daycare or dog park situations. They can be very chaotic and high-energy, and overwhelming for some dogs. My own poodle is a very poor fit for this kind of dog-dog interaction, and trying to force these interactions on him has made him very insecure and snappy around strange dogs. A dog walker who handles a single dog at a time is a better fit for most dogs if you need some extra help with exercise!
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If it's a reputable breeder doing full genetic health testing on the parents and breeding from moyen stocks (not mixing standard poodles with minis or toys to make them smaller), that can be a great option. Just know that some less reputable breeders are mixing sizes together and calling them 'moyen' poodles, even though mixing sizes can be much less predictable - the puppies might wind up the size of a standard or barely bigger than a mini - and the different sizes of poodles have different health issues that still need to be checked for and evaluated with each breeding.
Yes, a genuine moyen line would have moyen-sized dogs - who have been bred to be that size for generation after generation - imported from countries where this size is recognized. Preferably after having already been shown to championship so that the breeder has an outside source that confirms that the dog physically meets the breed standard. If it's just a standard bred to mini, they're just using the term 'moyen' as a sketchy marketing ploy - steer clear.

Your best bet is a mini, since you'll be able to find many more breeders and be able to pick which one is producing dogs that fit you and your family's needs. I'd start with The Poodle Club of America.
Yes, there's very few. Like I said, that's because breeders would have to import pretty much all their breeding dogs, and travel if they want to show any puppies they produce and continue their lines. So it's very expensive, even more so than regular dog breeding. I hope the size is recognized in the US some day, it's a lovely in-between where they're still small dogs, but not too tiny or delicate.
Depends on how long you want the coat. If you want to keep a poodle in a long, fluffy coat, it's going to be quite a lot of work regularly brushing and combing it between groomer visits to keep it free from nasty, potentially painful mats. Daily, if possible. If you want to keep them clipped quite short, they will need to go to the groomer more often, but their coats are much easier to handle. This is an example of my poodle several years ago in a very short, manageable coat - I rarely have to do more than a quick brush at this length, except for his fluffy tail:

Schnauzers can also be kept in longer or shorter trims, but I believe they have somewhat more manageable coats than poodles as adults. I have not owned a schnauzer myself, however, so I can't be certain.
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