Ditto that.As far as I know, The "King Shepherd" is a breed that was developed by breeding GSDs with large livestock guardian dogs and then again with German GSDs to increase the size, so really, they're both right. They are large GSDs that were made by breeding GSDs to a larger breed. I don't know that they're rare, but I would never own one or support anyone who bred them. The GSD has enough joint problems without adding 60 more pounds to it's frame.
There ARE Labradoodle breeders out there who are making a genuine effort to get the breed recognised, and part of this has been setting up national breed clubs and putting a standard together. The problem is that these breeders are in a very small minority, which is why I am still wary of most Labradoodle breeders.
I'm not sure what the point is here? Yes there are also people who are trying to create a line of labradoodles that breed true and to a standard.
Not quite.There ARE Labradoodle breeders out there who are making a genuine effort to get the breed recognised, and part of this has been setting up national breed clubs and putting a standard together. The problem is that these breeders are in a very small minority, which is why I am still wary of most Labradoodle breeders.
Just out of curiosity -- what is the purpose of the King Shepherd? I've never even heard of it.
Thats from dogbreedinfo.American dog breeders Shelley Watts-Cross and David Turkheimer developed this large breed from American and European German Shepherd Dogs, Alaskan Malamutes, and Great Pyrenees. An official breed club was established in 1995.
Do you have any links you could post that explains that further? I am genuinely trying to learn. I always heard and thought that those "breeds" were considerably less intelligent than the German shepherd. Also, I never did see the German shepherd as an independent breed, and rather, the opposite. I would say malamutes are much more independent than German shepherds.One of the purposes of both King and Shiloh shepherds is to create a large powerful shepherd type dog with the intelligence and athleticism of a German Shepherd but with less drive and independence making them a more suitable pet for many people, as well as eliminating that horrendous slope and other structural problems with the breed.
Just a quick note, there *are* quite a few structural problems within the GSD, but the slope really is not one of them. The slope in and of itself causes no structural instability to my knowledge, and there have probably been at least a dozen highly posted threads on this exact topic in the last 6 months....as well as eliminating that horrendous slope and other structural problems with the breed.
I agree with this 100%.As far as the australian labradoodle, I'd absolutely love to see them succeed in breeding true a new breed. There are a ton of people in the United States alone who are allergic to dogs, and the poodle just is NOT for everyone. My apologies to all the poodle lovers out there, but if I had to choose between a poodle and no dog because of allergies, I'd choose no dog. LD's have the potential to fit this bill quite well, but they have a long ways to go.
My point is anyone can create a breed standard and start breeding dogs. To me this doesn't make the off spring a new breed. I could breed a basset and a cocker spaniel to try to create a less intelligent, but still very friendly animal that has longer fur. I could call it a basser spaniel and put together a list of specific qualities I'm looking for. I could even start a breed club for other breeders trying to do the same thing. That wouldn't make the basser spaniel a new breed. To me a breed becomes a legitimate breed when it gets recognized by a legit breed recognition body (such as the AKC or the UKC). In my mind, putting together a breed standard and forming your own breed club doesn't make a breed a breed.I'm not sure what the point is here? Yes there are also people who are trying to create a line of labradoodles that breed true and to a standard.