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I found a 'cockalier' breeder a few hours from me, with a little buff pup that is just what I wanted. I was looking for a pure bred cocker spaniel and found these dogs. I mainly want it as a pet, so if it's a hybrid that is fine, but is $400 too much? They have several references and a health guarantee.

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What type of references? What constitutes a "health guarantee"?

Do they have a website?

Many "designer dog" breeders are BYBs and puppymills. BYBs and puppymills know how to market themselves by using fancy terms that hold no weight. Just a word of caution. :)
 

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I found a 'cockalier' breeder a few hours from me, with a little buff pup that is just what I wanted. I was looking for a pure bred cocker spaniel and found these dogs. I mainly want it as a pet, so if it's a hybrid that is fine, but is $400 too much? They have several references and a health guarantee.

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to much IMO for a mutt
 

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Do the parents hvae their OFA certifications? (Hips, elbows, patellas, eyes, thyroid for cockers; heart, patellas, eyes MINIMUM for cavaliers)

I am not convinced that there exist reputable breeders of mixes outside of the working breeders but that would be the bare minimum I would look for on health.

On the cavalier side, I'd want to know the ages of all four grandparents and all 8 great-grandparents- and I'd want to know what ages they died at if they wee no longer alive. (Heart disease is SO endemic in cavaliers.) If the breeder doesn't know? Walk away.
 

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argh, I'm just having a hard time finding breeders that are close enough to me :( I check the shelters but they never seem to have anything small, or many that aren't mixed with a lab or beagle... There are only certain mixes I'd want and those aren't the look I want.

Well, thanks for the info... I want to know this stuff because I don't have experience with these things! Still learning...
 

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Have you tried any pure breed rescues AmeDragonfly? I would guess your shelter or vet would have a list of rescues in your area. What about petfinder.com ?
You can find almost any breed on there, and plenty of mixes as well.
 

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Do the parents hvae their OFA certifications? (Hips, elbows, patellas, eyes, thyroid for cockers; heart, patellas, eyes MINIMUM for cavaliers)

I am not convinced that there exist reputable breeders of mixes outside of the working breeders but that would be the bare minimum I would look for on health.

On the cavalier side, I'd want to know the ages of all four grandparents and all 8 great-grandparents- and I'd want to know what ages they died at if they wee no longer alive. (Heart disease is SO endemic in cavaliers.) If the breeder doesn't know? Walk away.

Do these breeders meet your bare minimum for testing?

http://www.noblevestaldoodles.com/


http://www.heartsonglabradoodles.com/index


http://www.sleepycreeklabradoodles.com/


http://www.mountainviewlabradoodleandshihtzu.com/Labradoodles-Meet Our Dogs.retired.htm


http://www.mazinlabradoodles.com/Our_Dogs.html


http://www.springcreeklabradoodles.com/studservicepolicy.htm


There are plenty more but I have other things to do.
 

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Well... here it goes:

I have been trying to get a cocker spaniel because it is one of my favs and a bit cheaper than the yorkies I find. However I was turned down for one because I have a young child (like I would just put the two in a room to watch eachother?!) and the other because... my husband has a beagle- it is HIS dog, but I put that we had another dog in the house... so they want a vet reference. I told them there are records of her going if she had a problem, but not for shots because we do them at home. The dog is only going to be 2 so we haven't had her that long. The breeder said they couldn't give me a pup w/o an established vet record. I feel frustrated like no one will give me a chance to have MY OWN dog. I had a yorkie and we spent a lot on her, and when she was killed at just 7 months old my husband wasn't too keen on spending a ton all over again so soon. So I am just kind of stuck. Should I tell breeders that "I" don't have a dog to avoid this whole vet thing? Would they understand if I said it was a pet in the house but not mine to care for as far as vet stuff goes? I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm guilty of something cuz I can't get a dog I really want, so I'm turning to a mix breed so the breeder isn't so picky on the owner. I understand being cautious, but I know I'm a capable pet owner that would take good care of my dog. I've waited 26 years to get a dog of my own and now I feel like I have a mugshot up that says "Don't sell to her" lol.
 

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She followed the beagle out toward the main road and was hit... the beagle got loose and it happened before we could catch/find them.
 

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Sorry to hear about your Yorkie. Cockers will cost a lot from a reputable breeder, so if you're looking for a cheaper alternative, the ONLY one I would check out is rescue. http://www.petfinder.com will help you out with this, as will the Cocker Spaniel club in your area.

Don't compromise on your breeder for the sake of price; $600 extra spent on the puppy is usually $1000 extra spent at the vet because it has all kinds of genetic problems you didn't know about.
 

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I applied for a few cocker spaniels from a rescue, but I was turned down because I have a young child... so rescue is out.
 

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I don't really like the idea of people supporting those that breed mixed breeds and charge insane fees for them but bottom line is you are looking for a dog for YOU.

If you like the puppy, if that puppy is worth the $400 and if you can give that pup a home for 10+ years then I say go for it! Do I think it's too much? Yes, but I don't like either breed and mixing them together does nothing for me but for someone who loved the mix it would be well worth it to them.

In any case good luck in your puppy search. We do a few cocker/cav mixes in the grooming salon and they are pretty dogs, just not for me :) I like big puppies.
 
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