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If you can't trust the breeder you chose to buy from I don't know what to tell you. And a 5-week-old pup is WAY to young to be away from his mother and littermates. I don't think this is a good situation at all.

But, for whatever it's worth, the father looks like your basic "pit bull type" dog. Probably not a registered APBT (OK, certainly not, at 100 pounds), but what can you expect from a breeder that sells a pup at 5 weeks? He may have some AB mixed in, I think it's a fairly common mix.
 

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With the above already stated, it doesn't mean you're destined to have a horrible puppy, but for the best interests of both you and the pup, you should definitely dig in deeper and research and look to see what you can do as far as helping the pup develop. I can't tell you much more than the above that Willowy has already said, but there are people on here who can and sources to direct you to. There are good reasons why 8 weeks is generally the accepted answer as to the earliest that you want to take a puppy from its mother and siblings. There are behaviors, such as bite inhibition as the most well-known, that he very likely hasn't really learned yet that puppies learn around that age and the following weeks. My only additional comment on that entire topic simply goes along with the breeder remark already stated by Willowy, but if you can't trust the breeder or have not researched to find that the breeder is indeed reliable, then I hope you did not pay a large amount with high expectations.

Regardless, cute puppy, but I can't honestly say from the pictures whether they are full AB or not. While they definitely aren't purely pit...I don't know, but I can see why you are at least questioning it lol
 

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Thanks for the advice but that wasnt my question. I am very advanced when it comes to puppies and i took him home early because i took him to the vet for just a check up and parvo shot and he ended up having worms. so if i would have taken him back to his mom he would have got it again. so i took him home and him nurse with another pitbull family that i have at home with pitbull puppies his same age. And the breeder i got him from is not a bad breeder and neither is he the best. but what i can say he has gorgeous dogs. He just hasnt put in the money he needs to as fare as paper work but his dogs are gorgeous. Im taking care of him like no other so the breeder conversation is irrelevant. I just want to know what people think about him being pitbull or american bulldog. his bloodline has been kept tight for 3 generations. his dad is also his brother. he is the 3rd litter of pups from his mother. his dad came from his mom's first litter of pups. Im thinking he is American Bull Mix With Pitbull Or Maybe Full Pitbull...this is the advice i need
 

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Similar breeds. I think your puppy is a mutt, and somewhere in between the two breeds- if you don't buy from a breeder that registers their dogs (and sometimes even if they do) you cannot say with certainty what the puppy is.
 

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I'm confused about his pedigree and his dad also being his brother? You said
his dad came from his mom's first litter of pups.
Does that mean your breeder did a mother to son breeding to produce your pup?

As far as what his breed is I would say he is what he was sold to you as. As long as you love and enjoy him then that's all that really matters anyways.

Is there a particular reason you want to know his breed (i.e. Insurance or breeding) or are you just curious about what breed we think he is?
 

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An inbred 5-week-old pup? Lovely.

Anyway, if you know his bloodlines have been "kept tight" you should what breed they are. Pit bulls aren't supposed to be 100 pounds so there must be something mixed in, but the breeder ought to know what he's breeding if, as you say, he's not a bad breeder.
 

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I'm confused about his pedigree and his dad also being his brother? You said Does that mean your breeder did a mother to son breeding to produce your pup?
I literally just tried to diagram this and can't figure out how its possible.

Wait I got it. Goodness gracious I dont even want to know what the COI of that litter was.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bulldog ...Go to this link and go all the way down to the bottom and look at the american bulldog puppy picture..this puppy and any other american bulldog puppy looks identical to mines but different colors...my uncle is a former breeder of johnson american bulldogs and he says that the dad for sure american bulldog from the looks...so i am just curious..regardless i know for sure this dog will turn out bad ass because his dad and all the previous puppies from this same family have turned out to be some of the best working dogs i have seen...so i got him not caring if he is mixed or not...the question is what if hes full pitbull..that will mean he has basically created his own bloodline..my pup was 5 pound at 5 weeks old...way bigger then any pitbull will ever be...these dogs are massive in size..that is why i was wondering if there is american bulldog somewhere down the line because pitbulls rarely get 100+pounds
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bulldog ...Go to this link and go all the way down to the bottom and look at the american bulldog puppy picture..this puppy and any other american bulldog puppy looks identical to mines but different colors...my uncle is a former breeder of johnson american bulldogs and he says that the dad for sure american bulldog from the looks...so i am just curious..regardless i know for sure this dog will turn out bad ass because his dad and all the previous puppies from this same family have turned out to be some of the best working dogs i have seen...so i got him not caring if he is mixed or not...the question is what if hes full pitbull..that will mean he has basically created his own bloodline..my pup was 5 pound at 5 weeks old...way bigger then any pitbull will ever be...these dogs are massive in size..that is why i was wondering if there is american bulldog somewhere down the line because pitbulls rarely get 100+pounds
I think you forgot the link.

Weird. NVM!
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bulldog ...Go to this link and go all the way down to the bottom and look at the american bulldog puppy picture..this puppy and any other american bulldog puppy looks identical to mines but different colors...my uncle is a former breeder of johnson american bulldogs and he says that the dad for sure american bulldog from the looks...so i am just curious..regardless i know for sure this dog will turn out bad ass because his dad and all the previous puppies from this same family have turned out to be some of the best working dogs i have seen...so i got him not caring if he is mixed or not...the question is what if hes full pitbull..that will mean he has basically created his own bloodline..my pup was 5 pound at 5 weeks old...way bigger then any pitbull will ever be...these dogs are massive in size..that is why i was wondering if there is american bulldog somewhere down the line because pitbulls rarely get 100+pounds
Wait, so you know the sire is a purebred AmBulldog. That would therefore make it impossible for your puppy to be a purebred Pit. Am I missing something?
 

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Let me brake it all the way down. The person i got the pup from is not a breeder looking to make money. He has a lot of bad ass pitbulls and he simply has them because he loves the dogs. He hasnt tried registering any of his big boys because he simply is not looking to make money..he just keep them fed, socialized, trained, and "big"..i dont care if the dog is mixed or not because i know for a fact how he will turn out..i am just curious that maybe he actually has american bulldog and not pitbull but doesnt know...and breeding mother and son is perfectly fine...that is how you produce tri-color pitbulls because both carry the same recessive gene....breeding brother and sister from the same litter is were the problem is and this is not the case...
 

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YOU think breeding mother to son is "perfectly fine". A lot of people here don't. And letting pups go at 5 weeks is never OK.

And registering is not about making money. It's about having a database of pedigrees so people don't have to guess about their dog's heritage.
 

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LOL
Goodnight, forum. See you tomorrow.
 

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read my 1st response!
Yeah. . .you said he was neglecting his dogs (or implied as much). And then you said he's not a bad breeder. Hmm.
 

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yeah. . .you said he was neglecting his dogs (or implied as much). And then you said he's not a bad breeder. Hmm.
i never said anything like neglecting. I said he hasnt registered any of his big dogs...but if your not looking to make money of them there isnt a need to do so...but the dogs are well taking care of...you cant get a 100+pound ,socialized, trained dog like that and its neglected lol...but let me ask you a question...what do you feed your dog??
 

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It sounds like you really want the puppy to be an American Bulldog, for whatever reason... but actually have no reason to think he's anything other than a mutt.

You can't really tell people not to comment about the puppy being only 5 weeks old and separated from the litter. You don't have the authority to censor people.
 

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You said the pup couldn't go back to the litter due to untreated worms. Which sounds like neglect. It was your excuse not mine. If the dogs were not being neglected you could have returned him to his mother to complete his development. So. . .
 
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