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Sigh... my best friend is down from California and I've been spending alot of time at her In-Laws house with her. They are wonderful people, very sweet and nice to everyone... like most (Dog Ignorant People).

Well they have a male mutt, Pit Bull/Yellow Lab mix and lately a stray female look alike has been hanging around. Well her FIL asked me "Vanessa does it look like that dog is in heat?" (Me not thinking about what he was going to do) I check and "Oh yea, she is in heat... verrrry in heat."

Well right away he says "Alright!" Picks her up and tosses her over the fence with Buddy, they're male mutt. What happens?! He pounces her right away... sigh... I'm there protesting... like I have before with the other times.

Then the MIL comes out and says, "It's only puppies, not the end of the world! You throw them a blanket outside, she has them and we make money! It works out for everyone! If you want to help her have them you can have 100 dollars! ;)" Uggghhhhhh!

They were stuck in seconds... Puppies on the way... I hate bullsh*t like this...
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*sigh* Yep, I know. I had a client this week who let me know her "AKC" Labs (probably registerable, but not registered, definitely not health tested or proven dogs) had pups a few days ago, in case I knew of anyone who would want one. She says, "They sure are a lot of work!" I was like, "Ha! They'll be even more work in a few weeks..." She smartly replies, "No problem there. They'll be living outside before they're four weeks old!" I didn't even know where to begin. It's sad and I felt terrible about it, but I secretly hoped they would die young and quickly from the cold or some disease so they wouldn't have to go on to suffer in bad homes and/or the shelter...

Then there's our next door neighbors who got a new, tiny and adorable mix breed puppy for their young kids to play with. It was obviously too young to be away from it's littermates when they got it a few weeks ago. The kids have it out in the cold a lot, unsupervised, and if I see them I remind them to take it inside. The family goes through about one dog a year. This is the third they have had since I moved in three years ago, and the neighbor who has been here longest has told me there were others before I moved in. These are all small dogs and they have all ended up tied on a line outside, bored and barking like crazy, too hot or too cold, then the dogs end up getting loose repeatedly, then they get stolen or they run away. We try to do what we can to help the dogs while they are around (providing toys, clothes, repeatedly showing the kids how to treat the dogs, etc.), but animal control can't take them away as there is food, water and shelter provided. When the dogs get loose they are quickly caught (unless they really run away), so it's not like we can call in for that effectively. And since we all have dogs who bark sometimes, we are not willing to start filing complaints over barking.

Anyway, I was out in the front yard gardening recently and I could hear the kids playing, but I wasn't paying much attention until I heard a loud YIP! Then I heard a kid loudly say, "Get over here!" Then came the YIP, again, with a loud whacking sound. I turned and looked up the street a ways in time to see it all being repeated as a big, older boy (visiting the neighbors with the puppy) ripped on the pup's lead to get it to come to him, sending the pup flying. The pup hit the ground and tried to run off, then the boy hit the ground around the puppy with a fly swatter, ordering the dog to come to him as he went to repeat the leash jerk. I was shocked and almost lost it, but managed to say, "HEY!!! YOU need to STOP THAT NOW!!! That is NOT NICE and I do not want to see you treat that puppy like that EVER AGAIN." He just stared at me meanly before he and the other kids who were watching him walked back to the house with the puppy. I would have talked to the parents and even taken the puppy from them, but guess who has to translate what I say to the adults? The kids.
 

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Reminds me of my trip to Petsmart last week. I took my dog there as there's a big dog event at the local coliseum next week and I wanted to see how he would behave in an environment with lots of people and lots of dogs. We get there and find a bunch of dogs there and a lot of them are very, very interested in a golden retriever. I take my dog over there to say hello and the owner tells me that she (the retriever) is in heat. Who in their f'ing mind brings a dog in heat to a place where they know there are going to be a lot of other dogs some of whom are not going to be fixed?? WTF is wrong with people?? Maybe the guy is out running errands with his dog and remembers he needs dog food or something. Can you not leave the dog in the car with the window cracked for 5 minutes when it's 40 degrees out rather than bring a dog in heat into a group of other dogs?? I wanted to smack the guy very, very hard and I would've except he was bigger than me and his dog was bigger than mine. Oh well. Maybe next time.
 

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A lot of people seem to not know that mating dogs 'tie'. I think they assume they can just pull them apart to avoid any real problem. My husband's co-worker wanted to breed her Schanuzer, and was shocked when he told her how it actually works. :rolleyes:
 

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Hm, to bad she didn't find her way to the vet for an emergency spay before the birth. People just drive me nuts sometimes. Sounds like my ex's parents. (part of the reason he is an ex) I can't deal with that type of thing.
 

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Reminds me of my trip to Petsmart last week. I took my dog there as there's a big dog event at the local coliseum next week and I wanted to see how he would behave in an environment with lots of people and lots of dogs. We get there and find a bunch of dogs there and a lot of them are very, very interested in a golden retriever. I take my dog over there to say hello and the owner tells me that she (the retriever) is in heat. Who in their f'ing mind brings a dog in heat to a place where they know there are going to be a lot of other dogs some of whom are not going to be fixed?? WTF is wrong with people?? Maybe the guy is out running errands with his dog and remembers he needs dog food or something. Can you not leave the dog in the car with the window cracked for 5 minutes when it's 40 degrees out rather than bring a dog in heat into a group of other dogs?? I wanted to smack the guy very, very hard and I would've except he was bigger than me and his dog was bigger than mine. Oh well. Maybe next time.
You're lucky that was the worst thing going on. I worked at PetSmart for a brief amount of time, and my god, the things owners did with their dogs and the excuses they made.
 

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"Just puppies"? Good gosh, how sad is that? I have no problem with *breeders* breeding dogs, people who have their dogs tested etc beforehand but not the average Joe.
 

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Sickening. :(

Not to get too far off the topic, but:
Hm, to bad she didn't find her way to the vet for an emergency spay before the birth.
Abortion is not even humane for late-term human babies; I can't imagine it's done humanely for animals. I'd rather see the puppies born and then euthanized humanely than put through pre-birth killing with no anesthesia.
 

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I had a guy come in with his mutt (lab x GSD) and he said that he had wanted a purebred so he could breed her but ended upwith a mixed breed anyway. Then he asks me if he could let his male Lab mate with her but separate them before they get locked? I suppose in some way, that could be considered cruel but in all ways, stupid.

I don't know why people think it's easy to help a mom give birth to 5 to 10 puppies. These will be the same people who will get on this forum on the night of the births asking what to do instead of getting all the info beforehand. And then wonder why they will have to spend money on vet bills, puppy milk etc.? And won't they have to split the 'profits' since one of the parents is not theirs?
 

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I check and "Oh yea, she is in heat... verrrry in heat."

Well right away he says "Alright!" Picks her up and tosses her over the fence with Buddy, they're male mutt.
I'll be frank. I have a hard time imagining a reasonable person, "dog ignorant" or not, doing this. It's just not something normal people do.
 
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