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I ask this because I asked a question about our litter of pups, and this lady didn't even answer my question but instead called me an idiot backyard breeder. Oh, and it's not like we are going to sale the puppies. We are keeping two, going to give one to my sister, and the other to her friend. They are pugs.
 

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Well there are a lot of missing holes here, so it would be hard to say from just what you have written. Where exactly did you ask the question?

Um, why exactly did you breed? What made you think the dogs you had were breeding worthy? Did you health test? Do you know whats behind the dogs you bred, pedigree wise?

Pugs can have lots of health issues, so just breeding willy nilly is a little irresponsible. Just because you have to intact dogs and can breed, doesn't mean you should.
 

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If you didn't do any health testing and breed for a specific purpose then, yes, most people would consider you a backyard breeder.
 

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no I didn't do any Nessesary tests. But it was honestly not planned. The dog that was impegnated(my moms),was a pup herself(she's now 9 months. The last thing we'd want was for her to get pregnant. She's alright, luckily....but thanks, if I EVER breed, I'll make sure to take the right precautions; not that I know them all lol....oh, I'd never breed for profit. I understand that lots of ppl do and many innocent animals get the wrong side of the deal:(,so here's what I'll do: MAYBE when my sibe is at LEAST 2 years old, I'll breed her(I'll be as sincere to my dog-such as not overbreeding),and take the right steps(like I said, I honestly don't know what makes a good breeder. Anyway, here comes the funny part; I'll keep the puppies. I've always wanted my own group of huskies. The site I was on was yahoo answers. Which explains alot I guess. Anyway, sorry for ranting and thanks for your input.
 

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About the pugs having health issues, I absolutely agree. I did research, a few years ago, my cousins pug went through having pups-nothing to do with me, she is a BYB. Anyway, when it got closer to Avery having her pups because of it I got so scared because of the breed we are dealing with! Don't worry, I don't want to go through that again!
 

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Oh they'll call you a backyard breeder in a heartbeat, and for the most part they aren't wrong. I know a lot of the old regulars there, great bunch, know their stuff, but don't take kindly to bybs or accident litters. Plus that site is way over run with trolls, so people tend to get pissy real quickly (I know I used to).

If you don't know what makes a good breeder, you shouldn't be breeding. You are very lucky your mom didn't lose her dog. Mainly I think in your case it's irresponsibility, the pup should have never come in contact with an intact male.
 

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No, I agree with you. I'll do my research and then some before anymore breeding(accident or otherwise), but I think the harshness needs to be taken down little.but the lady on answers did jump the gun a slight bit.but thanks, appreciate it.
 

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But also, you are especially right; we should have been more cautious about her getting pregnant. Thankfully, she and the pups are okay, though. So, when is it the right time to get her spayed? Th pups are a month now and not weaned.
 

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If you don't show or compete to title your dog to prove impeccable breeding stock. If you don't have full range of health certificats, eyes, heart, joints & bones to show worthiness of breeding. If both bitch & stud had temperment testing. If this wasnt a planned breeding with adopters already approved before pups were even conceived. If you didn't make sure the stud had all these, which really are simply the basics, then yes, you ARE a backyard breeder. No one should breed without these things in place...which is why I don't breed & laughed when people asked me if they could have a puppy from Chloe because she is so cute & sweet, sorry, I was RESPONSIBLE & spayed her, I'm not a breeder. Also, keeping two puppies isn't the best idea either.
 

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Some would say she should have been spayed shortly after she came out of season, pregnant or not. I volunteer with a group that does mass spay and neuter clinics and they'll do a spay even if the dog may be pregnant - because they still usually have 80 dogs, pups and cats to take back and foster and find homes for. Or at six months or so BEFORE she came into season if it was too much to keep them separated.

It's good that you have homes for the pups, but make sure mom, dad and all four are spayed or neutered before you have sixteen more pups to rehome!

For your sibe, talk to the breeder you got her from about breeding. There are members here that can also give you info, and there's clubs that would have the info on hip and eye clearances as well as whatever else you need for that breed.

And look up 'littermate syndrome' on here and the web and read up. I wouldn't suggest keeping littermates, it can be done but it's a lot more work and risk. Also applies to keeping an entire litter of pups!

So yes, you are a 'byb', because you had a litter without planning or thought or health clearances. If you didn't know the basic boy+girl=puppies...... here's your sign. Just spent a month on 'crate and rotate because I have two intact girls and one boy. No puppies though and I've had intact dogs of both sexes almost all the time for the last 15 years.
 

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Lots of time, money, testing and reasoning goes Into breeding. Keeping an entire litter will require most to be kept separate, since usually littermates will fight terribly when older. If you want a whole pack of sibes, why not adopt, I'm sure there are many in shelters or at breed rescues.
 
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