This is mostly resolved. I would still appreciate receiving any additional useful information.
I am not trying to correct him yet with the slip collar. I have only tried to get him to accept wearing it. I intended not to pull or pop but it is possible that the collar is making him uncomfortable because of the way he moves while he is in it.Hopefully you aren't trying to correct the dog with leash pops and pulls.
So ... you too, like the trainer, are advocating collar correcting a 14 week-old puppy, who most likely hasn't learned even the most basic fundamentals of LLW behaviour to any appreciable degree, YET ???A good rule for slip collars is you correct ONLY when the dog puts tension on the leash, so when you feel he's going forward, correct by pulling quickly to the side NOT up(that makes it a choker) and relax the tension right away. If you hold the tension, then the dog doesn't learn anything, and it just sees you as pulling it to the side for no reason.
I didn't actually advocate using the slip collar, providing the owner with information on how to properly use it was my intention, in the event she does use it, something that you or I cannot control, no matter how much you or I say otherwise.So ... you too, like the trainer, are advocating collar correcting a 14 week-old puppy, who most likely hasn't learned even the most basic fundamentals of LLW behaviour to any appreciable degree, YET ???
In the grand scheme of things, I think it's safe to say this pup is ~barely off his mother's teat~, relatively speaking. Good grief.
Bluntly stated, corrections are typically reserved for more mature dogs who thoroughly understand the handler's expectation but fail to comply. << Makes sense ???
1. I have seen slip collars used and while I might not inspire your confidence, I know they are not necessarily cruel when used properly, and I am making every effort be cautious so that I do not cause any harm while I am on a learning curve.
2. I don't think personal attacks are appropriate.
3. I am perceiving that this is a touchy subject, so I have reported my thread to the mods. I would still appreciate receiving any additional useful information privately. Thank you.
By "forced" running as compared to "free running" it doesn't mean that you are physically dragging your dog along and forcing him to run. It is whether his body is being "forced" to conform to a particular motion/action or not.Please do not worry about the treadmill. I am not forcing him to run, he enjoys running on the treadmill and he runs when he asks to, (especially now that it's so hot outside, he'd rather run & play inside in the AC). My veterinarian says this will not hurt him.
Try clicker training and get a treat bag that hangs on your belt and holds itself open so its easy to grab a treat. The clicker "marks" the correct behavior and give you that extra second or two to get the treat out. You can also hold a treat at the ready but holding it behind your back; give the command (like sit) and use your chosen hand signal with the non-treat hand.Thanks for the video, I have been trying something like this in class; While the instructor was watching me she suggested the slip collar. I am not always doing well with food incentives, I am too slow getting a treat for him. I am better with praise which doesn't work as well for something like heel.
Yep; the retractable has taught him to pull. It has taught him that he gets 16 ft of leash and he has the "right" to use it. He has to be taught that he needs to walk without pulling on a standard leash and only once he has learned that can he have the privilege of gaining freedom. By the mechanics of all retractable leashes they require the dog to pull in order to use the extended leash; which is but one reason (among the stronger safety based reasons against retractables) that a plain flat 15 -25 training lead is a better choice for giving a dog more freedom for playtime.On a retractable leash, he knows that when we reach an area where it's appropriate, I will let his rambunctious puppy impulses use all 16 feet of the leash. On a standard leash he knows he will always be stuck within 6 feet of me and that I can't keep up with what he likes to do, running around everywhere wildly.
Just a word of caution- you need to have much better recall EVEN when distracted by dogs and people (actually, particularly when distracted by dogs) before you allow him off-leash outside of your property or other private fenced property. This goes double if the area you are in is technically an on-leash area (yes, I know there are many rural and wooded areas that have no leash laws, but most state parks etc do). If your friendly puppy goes running up to the wrong dog and you cannot call him back, he could end up injured or worse. Hopefully people with dog aggressive dogs are not taking them to off-leash locations where they might run into other dogs, but if the accepted protocol (or the law) is to use a leash, then some of those leashed dogs could be dog aggressive.(When we're mostly alone in the woods he is often off-leash because he has great recall when he is not distracted by other dogs or people; He's a very friendly dog.)