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I think it's sad that people don't realize that donating to HSUS doesn't support their local Humane Society in any way. I was at the local HS today to walk some dogs, and an older lady came in to make a donation......she said she "didn't want to mail it because she didn't need any more of those mailing labels", and of course the local HS doesn't send you labels, only HSUS does that.

Which means that all these years she's been giving to HSUS thinking that her money was going to help local animals, but it wasn't. Sad. I think HSUS needs to make it clear that they aren't affiliated with any local shelters, or else they're just being fradulent.
Here's you "consumer advocacy group" :rolleyes:

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' "

Over 40 percent of the group's 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman's PR company, Berman & Co. for "management services. [1] As part of its operations CCF runs a series of attack websites, including "consumerfreedom.com, activistcash.com, cspiscam.com, animal-scam.com, fishscam.com, obesitymyths.com, physiciansscam.com [and] PetaKillsAnimals.com. [2]


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

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And lets not forget that they had a fund raising campaign to take care of the Michael Vick Pit Bulls then reccomended they be put down.


Keep giving money and supporting the HSUS if you choose. But in the end they will be the Enron of non profit organizations.


The really sad thing in all of this...... Is that there are a great many people in the US. People like me that have had to channel funds that we used to donate to local shelters into groups that will lobby and fight for our rights as pet owners, fishermen, hunters, etc. So not only does the HSUS not help animals with the funds they collect. Their activities create a need for others to give funds to lobbyist organizations that stand opposite of them.
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Is anybody here going to discuss the ramifications of this new development? I want a bit of a thinktank.
Will employers take this degree program seriously? Will they take it too seriously? Is it some kind of HSUS brainwashing or will it actually help animal lovers in pursuit of an education?
I know I'd love an education revolving around animal behavior and such but I won't touch most of the programs I've encountered with a ten foot pole.(I hate math and most science)
Will employers take this degree program seriously?
I didn't know anything about the HSUS when I first looked at the link, but when I read the following paragraph, I concluded that it was a joke:
Across the three majors, all students would take two courses: Animal Protection as a Social Movement and Animals and Ethics. The animal studies major is intended to be interdisciplinary in nature, and the core courses include Understanding the Human Animal Bond, Sociology of Animal Abuse, Animals in Literature, Global Animal Issues, and Animal Protection and the Environment. Core courses for the animal policy and advocacy major, meanwhile, include Research Methods for Humane Change, Animals and Public Policy, and Animals, Advocacy and Corporate Change
This isn't university education; its a training course to fulfill someone's particular political agenda. Boot camp for wacko animal activists. If you want education, teach people about animal physiology, animal psychology, agricultural methods involving animals, the structure and economics of the pet and livestock industries, how animals are used in testing etc and then after they actually know something and go and work for 10 years in the field, then they should start worrying about 'global animal issues' and advocacy.

I don't see why any employer would take this seriously. What value does it bring to an employer?
Peppy, my guess would be that if we looked at the early days of Women's Studies curricula that we would not take that degree seriously either. I suspect that someone would say precisely what you just said about the HSUS degree, that it was self-serving and existed only to further an agenda--and yet look at how many people take that degree to be a serious one.

As far as bringing value to an employer, I also suspect that is brings exactly to employers what the organization wishes it to bring. I doubt that it's intended to be brainwashing, although it could serve as brainwashing if students are on the fence about the animal issue. Rather, I suspect that this degree is intended to churn out an organized body of lobbyists--paid for by all taxpayers' money!--and to produce a body of "legitimate businessmen" (and women), who will perform questionable acts in favor of HSUS. If this degree is an undergraduate degree, after all, it can be used to precede studying for a law degree, which makes me wonder if it's not just the next organized step that logically proceeds from the waters that they tested with the many forms anti-dog/anti-pet/anti-breeder legislation that they sponsored or co-sponsored this year. If this degree is a "joke," then it is a very bad one and we, as pet owners, need to be very afraid of the punch line.
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