HSUS offering university degrees

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Discussion Starter · Jun 20, 2009

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What are your thoughts on this? The comments below that article are also somewhat interesting/amusing to read.

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JohnnyBandit

· #6 · Jun 22, 2009

KaseyT said:
Maybe on whatever alternate universe you live on this ridiculous hyperbole is true, but certainly not this one.

Kyashi's comment while extreme was not really that far off base.

The HSUS is not a friend to pet owners in any way, shape, or form.

The HSUS may have started as an animal welfare organization. But it underwent a transformation about the time PETA came into being. New personel, new agendas.

Shortly after the current director, Wayne Pacelles took over, they merged with the Fund for Animals and Doris Days organization.

The transformation is complete. The HSUS is nothing more than a lobbying and fundraising arm of the radical animal rights movement.

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JohnnyBandit

· #10 · Jun 22, 2009

KaseyT said:
You judge an entire organisation by what one person said 15 years ago while in his twenties?

Here is the HSUS Statement of Policy approved by the board of directors. Everything HSUS does is bound by this policy. Read it and tell my what specifically you disagree with.

http://www.hsus.org/about_us/statements/

I judge the organization by their actions and words of the organization and their staff.

Look around....It is not just Pacelles.

All one has to do is look at the organizations activities, who they give money to, and what legislation they support, etc and it will become very clear that they are not an animal welfare organization but rather a radical animal rights organization.

Anyone that donates or supports the organization is actually helping them work towards restrictions and possibly ending pet ownership.

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JohnnyBandit

· #12 · Jun 22, 2009

KaseyT said:
Specifically what actions and legislation?

Kasey..... I would be more than happy to discuss this with you again. I do believe we have discussed this very issue with previously on another thread.

I am doubtful I will change your opinion on HSUS. But I am not going to get into an in depth debate at midnight. So our conversation will have to continue tomorrow.

In the mean time you might find this interesting reading.
This is not from any of the organizations I currently belong to that focuses quite a bit of their attention on combating HSUS.

But rather a consumer advocacy group that has nothing to do with dogs, pets, hunting or anything else. It simply warns potential donors about what may happen to their funds.

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/136

As much as I hate to say this.... If someone chose to donate to an animal rights organization, their money would be more likely to acheive some of their goals if they donated to PETA over HSUS.

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JohnnyBandit

· #22 · Jun 23, 2009

KaseyT said:
Here's you "consumer advocacy group"

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' "

Over 40 percent of the group's 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman's PR company, Berman & Co. for "management services. [1] As part of its operations CCF runs a series of attack websites, including "consumerfreedom.com, activistcash.com, cspiscam.com, animal-scam.com, fishscam.com, obesitymyths.com, physiciansscam.com [and] PetaKillsAnimals.com. [2]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

And sourcewatch is credible????

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http://www.vidoosh.tv/play.php?vid=4360

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLn_T-4iAWY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ9b3_ZMdes&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ9b3_ZMdes&feature=related

And lets not forget that they had a fund raising campaign to take care of the Michael Vick Pit Bulls then reccomended they be put down.

Keep giving money and supporting the HSUS if you choose. But in the end they will be the Enron of non profit organizations.

The really sad thing in all of this...... Is that there are a great many people in the US. People like me that have had to channel funds that we used to donate to local shelters into groups that will lobby and fight for our rights as pet owners, fishermen, hunters, etc. So not only does the HSUS not help animals with the funds they collect. Their activities create a need for others to give funds to lobbyist organizations that stand opposite of them.

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