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Howdy all,

Where do I start...

I was looking for a pup, preferably a Husky/Malamute/Akita type...I came across an advert on Gumtree, for Akita x Siberian Husky 8 week old pups, for sale locally, so went up to check them out on Monday night.

I turned up, to find the house they were living in was a total tip (however the dogs, older ones, looked in good state and were very friendly, there was several) and then there were the Pups. I've been brought up around big dogs, and had dogs in the family and friends families since as long as I can remember, but breeding - is something i'm not too familiar with (Im 23) anyway the pups were covered in crap / mud from head to toe, and on arrival it was clear this lady (who posted the advert and put her no. on the site, was a go between, middle-man so to speak) any way, after spending 10minutes in the smelly house (quite stupidly, upon reflection) I felt so sorry for the pups, apparently they hadn't taken to there mum, so had been on dried food for some time, and I just felt pity for them. The mam, and the Dad looked fine examples (However there was no Akita's to be seen anywhere) ...anyway, my heart got the better of me, and I took away one of the girls, and was 'at this time' over the MOON!...
Anyway, yesterday was Wednesday and it was becoming clear something was wrong with my Pup, Bowe. She seems shakey, and pretty un steady on her feet. Anyway, as any responsible owner would, I was straight on to the Vets and took her in that night after finishing work. It became quite clear (to more experienced eyes) the chances of her being 8 weeks, were slim (due to weight and size) things however were about to GET WORSE for me & Bowe! ...Turns out she's blind! Temp/or Totally, depending on age possibly? but its not a good start for the poor girl.
Trying to make a long story short here, I got straight on to the person responsible for the advert etc. within minutes of leaving the vets. I rang and basically told them what i've wrote above, and these were her words "errr, errmmm, right, ring back in 10minutes, ok?" ....so I did. No Answer. And again. No Answer. Then Answerphone! by now, without swearing, I WAS FUMING! So I sent some messages (lol) basically stating, I want to talk to the 'owner/breeder' of these pups and sort something out, then when I received NO REPLY I stepped it up a notch by basically stating I was going to drive through there to the house I got them from, and who ever was there was going to HAVE TO deal with me. NO REPLY. So I picked a mate up, and off we went. (9.00pm last night) got there, and there was nobody in...so I rang the number off the advert, and to my shock she answered! so I quickly explained I was outside the house, and that I wanted to talk to the owner/breeder of the dogs, and that I didn't want a war. So off she went to call him & get him to meet me at his house (he was genuinely out) and he did...so I explained my situation to him, and he offered me the following resolutions:

* Return the Puppy & get my money back.
* Swap the Pup for another, but he only had 2 boys left.
* Bear with my Pup as he said he's 'seen it' before and its quite common.

To me, none of these were the answer, firstly my pup has been introduced to my 2 daughters & fiancee and they love her to bits already. Secondly, I didn't really want a boy, I wanted a girl. Thirdly, I dont know If I can trust his "OPINION" on her getting better, however, with another 10mins of chatting with the bloke some OTHER things emerged.

* The Pups are only 5 weeks old, as of TODAY! 12th July 2012.
* The Pups are Siberian Husky (Full Breed) X Arctic Wolf (??????)
* He said he would bet me my money back, that the Pup would gain its eyesight, within the next 2 - 6 weeks.
* He said he'd bred these types of dogs for the last 7, 8 years.
* Before that he'd bred show winning German Shepherds, showed me pictures, with him in them etc. So I was buying 'abit' of what he was telling me.

SO, Thats my situation as of this morning. At home I have what seems at the minute to be a 'just gone' 5 week old Puppy, with 98-100% Blindness at the moment (after undergoing a few tests at the vets) And this idiot who obviously is happy selling 4-5week old pups with problems like mine has, offering me the choices above. Personally, I dont want my Pup going back anywhere near him or that house, I just dont know how much merit there is in waiting to see how she copes over these next 2-3 weeks, and see if her situation improves? I feel morally responsible for this pup now, and I dont want to write her off just yet especially if she's only 5 weeks old today.

HELP, ADVICE & OPINIONS will be much appreciated.

Any body with experience of the breed would be great, I THINK she might just be a Siberian Husky and have no 'Arctic Wolf' in her, but I could be totally wrong, as the Dad (who was the 'pack leader' & 'arctic wolf') did look just the same as some of the ones that come up after a quick google images search. I'm in the North East of England, and would welcome an experience breeder or someone with a lot more knowledge & expertise than I have, to pop round for a cup of tea/coffee and have a look at her? After a phone call to the Vets an hour ago, to inform her of my recent 'discoveries' she has told me, he could 'possibly' be speaking some truth, and with her not being 7-8 weeks old, and only 5 to give her some time to improve, as she hasn't by any means had the best start in life. So my minds made up to short term, to keep on looking after her, and see how things go in these next few weeks before she goes back to the vets.

Again, HELP, ADVICE & OPINIONS will be much appreciated!

Thanks man,

Mark & Bowe.
 

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Wow. That's quite a story.

A 5 week puppy, of any breed, is bad. Puppies learn dog manners and bite inhibition from their littermates and mom from 5-8 weeks, so you'll have to work extra hard at socializing her to other dogs and training her bite inhibition. (We have a sticky in the training section called "The Bite Stops Here")

As to the wolf . . . if your dog is part wolf, that is bad. Wolves are wild animals. People do not appreciate what thousands of years of selective breeding has done for dogs until they see how raising a wolf goes. It doesn't. No matter how you raise a wolf, it's a wolf and it's not obeying commands or staying put. People have been killed by their "pet" wolves because wolves are not pets.

If it were me and I believed I had a real wolfdog on my hands, I'd give it to a rescue or other organization that helps wolfdogs. There are several in the US, I don't know about where you are.

As to the blindness, what did the vet say? I've never heard of 5 week old puppies being blind and then regaining sight later. This sounds like bad breeding or seriously bad care once the pups were born. So I wouldn't count on this dog ever seeing. That being said, blind dogs can do quite well. Dogs don't depend on their sight like humans do.
 

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Please put all feelings aside, give the dog back, get your money and run, run very far away. That dogs could become a danger to you nad your family, wolf dog or not. At 5 weeks it hasn't learned meny very important lessons, and if the dog never regains it's sight, think of what could happen to your children.

I've had a wolf dog, I know what they are like. They aren't a force to be reconed with.
 

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Aren't wolves extinct in the wild in the UK? I doubt it's a wolfdog. That said, I agree with the above. Even if it turns out not to be permanently blind (never heard of that happening, seems like the guy just wanted to put you off), the puppy was separated from its mother and litter WAY too young and is likely to have a lot of problems. Not to mention that you've supported what sounds like a very unscrupulous breeder by buying this puppy. I would get my money back and run (and consider reporting this guy to the authorities).
 

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Aren't wolves extinct in the wild in the UK?
Don't know about extinct but they are illegal to own there.



Thats the first I've heard about blindness in a pup that age and supposidely coming back? He's definately pulling you're leg.
I have two wolfdogs that I got at the age of 4 weeks and 3 weeks and neither had those type of problems. I have talked to one of the breeders of them for years and never heard them tell any story of anything like that ever happening.

Do you have pics. of the parents? If it is a true wolfdog they can be abit of a handfull, you're going to need to build a special enclosure for her. They are excellent escape artist, can clear a 6 ft. fence with no problem so it will need to be taller then that. Can dig out of a area in a matter of mins. so it will need dig guards also. Plus on top of that they can eat threw normal chainlink or privacey fence with no problem so you're going to need really strong fencing. I ended up building a enclosure out of cattle pannels that are 4 guage. Here's an ex. of the fencing you will need. http://virginiawolves.zoomshare.com/6.html
 
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