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Hi

I found my dog yesterday morning and he had died overnight. I am struggling to determine why and need to try and make sense of it.

He was a very healthy 8.5 year old border collie. He has always been in perfect health and whilst recently he has been greying more and become a little more lethargic than in his puppyhood, he was showing no signs of ill health. He had never been poorly apart from a back strain from a bit of over-excited play about 5 years ago.

He was fed on Orijen senior, always wormed, always treated for dog fleas and has always been up to date with his vaccinations.

When I found him he had vomited and done a poo, in the position I found him. His stomach was hard.

I think I may have lost him to GDV. I last saw him at about 12.30am and he was walking about, but tired. He had (unsually for him) done a poo in the kitchen. I didn't click that something could be wrong and put it down to the fact he didnt do one when he was out earlier on. I found him at 9.30 am. When I moved him some air came from inside him like a burp.

Does it sound feasable that it was GDV? I just wish I could have been there, or clicked that something was wrong. I keep blaming myself. If not then what else could it have been that caused such a swift death in my otherwise perfectly healthy dog?

I don't know if a dog's stomach goes hard when it passes away, or if this is a sign of what caused his death. I feel sick to the bone thinking that while I was in bed sleeping that he was in pain and suffering while I could have tried to save his life.

Going to miss my boy so much :( I now have to try and explain it all to my 3 year old daughter too :(



This was him aged 3 1/2 - My favourite photo of him
 

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I don't have any comments as to why he passed as I am not knowledgeable enough to give an opinion. But I just wanted to say I'm sorry. That must have been awful to wake up to.
 

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I'm so sorry for your loss. I know it must be difficult. =(

Are you able to take him for an autopsy? A vet may be able to determine the cause.
 

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Thanks for your kind comments.

I cant have an autopsy - I organised the pet crematorium to come and collect him stright from the house. I didn'tt fancy having him cut up before being cremated. The thought had crossed my mind as it would be the only sure way to know, but I don't think I could bring myself to subject him to it before the cremation.
 

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No advice ... Just want to say I am so very sorry for your loss.
 

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I'm so sorry for your loss. It does sound like bloat, from what you said in your post. Our babies are never with us long enough, are they? I hope time will dull the pain and leave you with only good memories.
 

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Without a necropsy, you will never know. I'm so sorry for your loss, he was beautiful. I hope your child is doing okay.
 

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I agree, it does sound like bloat.

I'm so sorry for your loss. He was a handsome dog, judging by the picture. I hope you and your daughter both are doing all right.
 

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Sorry for your loss mate. Sad thing to wake up to.

There are lots of ways dogs can suddenly pass, as with humans, heart attack, anurism, anaphelactic shock, stroke and so on etc. Hard stomach could be bloat or it could have been a twisted bowl or other obstruction.

Do not keep speculating on the cause because without that autopsy , or at least a vets exam, you will never know. Take comfort in the thought that in the years that he was with you, you gave him the best years of his short life.
 

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No thoughts on the cause but I wanted to say how sorry I am for your loss. Like others have said, try to take comfort in all the wonderful years you had together.
 

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Sorry about your loss. It always seems rougher when pets die suddenly without any apparent reason. A pet with a long illness gives you time to accept it and come to terms with the loss. A sudden death without a known cause kind of leaves you wondering if you could have done something.
 

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Wow, everyone is so nice here :)

Thanks for all the kind words and suggestions.

I guess I will never really know for sure and will have to learn to accept that.
 

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I'm very sorry for your loss. An obstruction or torsion bloat can cause a quick passing like that. As far as your 3 yo, I think "He went to Heaven" is enough for someone that young. I'm not sure that a 3 yo understands death, yet... and she'll get over it fairly quickly. Plus, as soon as you're ready, she'll be happy with another dog...
 

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I'm so sorry. Don't blame yourself. You're not a vet and even a vet could miss the subtle, early signs of disease in dogs. Unfortunately, a dog can't say, "Hey, feeling a bit nauseated over here" and often give no signs or very subtle signs.

As for your 3 year old, she won't be that upset. Kids that young really can't understand death. they're not mentally capable of it. What you will find upsetting is that she'll repeatedly ask you where the dog is, because she can't understand death. My niece was very close to my old dog and is 3, and 6 months later still asks me where is Muggsy every time she comes over.
 

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I am glad Amaryllis brought this up about your 3 year old child.

I remember telling my children that the dog went up in the sky to Heaven. I also took the opportunity at their young age when it stormed. I told them that it was the dog up in the sky, in Heaven, playing ball and the lightning was the light switch going on and off because they were happy and celebrating! :) ( I also demonstrated it by switching on and off the light switch )
 

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I am glad Amaryllis brought this up about your 3 year old child.

I remember telling my children that the dog went up in the sky to Heaven. I also took the opportunity at their young age when it stormed. I told them that it was the dog up in the sky, in Heaven, playing ball and the lightning was the light switch going on and off because they were happy and celebrating! :) ( I also demonstrated it by switching on and off the light switch )

This is a really nice idea. I know she will ask repeatedly - I think I will tell her this. Thanks :)
 
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