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when is the new season of "groomer has it" on in 2009 and does anyone watch it here?
 

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I believe it starts in April. I enjoyed the first season, but mainly because I am a reality tv addict in general. I have no drama in my own life so I relish it on tv.

Artist Knox is also having his own spin-off show starting soon.
 

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The new season premieres April 11th on Animal Planet. I know a couple of the groomers on it this year. I can't wait to see how it goes, but I know who I am rooting for..;)
 

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Thanks for the dates guys,I couldnt figure it out but now I know!:)
 

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Thanks for the date! I will be watching.

What did yall think of the judges last year?
I think the judges, (aside from Joey Villiani) know nothing about grooming, and really have no respectable input in most cases. I don't like Xavier at all...pompous and rude and knows nothing about everyday grooming..His online bio doesn't even talk about dogs, but instead about him trying to become an actor....And the vet...again, knows as much about grooming as I do about spaying and neutering a dog. I just don't think they are qualified to judge a GROOMING show..but its those same judges again this season. The info and previews are up on the Animal Planet website.
 

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I think the judges, (aside from Joey Villiani) know nothing about grooming, and really have no respectable input in most cases. I don't like Xavier at all...pompous and rude and knows nothing about everyday grooming..His online bio doesn't even talk about dogs, but instead about him trying to become an actor....And the vet...again, knows as much about grooming as I do about spaying and neutering a dog. I just don't think they are qualified to judge a GROOMING show..but its those same judges again this season. The info and previews are up on the Animal Planet website.
I agree, totally with you. I really think the judges should ALL be actual groomers (duh); I mean they are judging groomers...hello!!! :rolleyes:
 

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My sentiments exactly.

I still get kinda ticked when I think about the puppy episode.
How is it a level playing field....when one groomer gets a puppy pom, and one groomer gets a puppy Great Pyr....and tangled to boot! I felt so bad for that guy. I would've cried like a baby on tv too.
 

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I saw some previews for this the other day. Is it fun to watch?

Graco--it's cool that you know some of them. Why aren't YOU on there? :p

Its "entertaining" I suppose...most groomers were horrified watching last season. They are a quite unreal situations, and ridiculous time constraints, etc. so last season was hard for me to really enjoy, cause I just kept thinking about how terrible it was..LOL

And thats why I am not on there...LOL That and I can't take off work and close up for over 6 weeks....though a nice long vacation in CA does sound nice! LOL One groomer on the show lives just 15 minutes from me, and we have refered dogs to each other since she started up a few years ago out here. She has also judged me numerous times in my competitions. I am pulling for her to win!
 

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I think the judges, (aside from Joey Villiani) know nothing about grooming, and really have no respectable input in most cases. I don't like Xavier at all...pompous and rude and knows nothing about everyday grooming..His online bio doesn't even talk about dogs, but instead about him trying to become an actor....And the vet...again, knows as much about grooming as I do about spaying and neutering a dog. I just don't think they are qualified to judge a GROOMING show..but its those same judges again this season. The info and previews are up on the Animal Planet website.
They don't need to just give great cuts, they need to show they're well rounded in dealing with dogs in general, which is why they have tests like grooming uncooperative/aggressive dogs, puppies, specific breeds etc. They have a professional groomer to judge the cuts, a veterinary to judge how they handled the dog in ways appropriate for their health/breed, a guest judge tailored for each challenge (Publisher of magazines they are competing to be in, a trainer for difficult dog episodes, etc) and considering the fact it IS a reality show, a judge to be a jerk. It makes good TV.
 

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Re: Goomer has it? (Groomer has it?)

This is a show I watch only for dogs (grooming consumer not pro) and from that standpoint they are really not the dogs' friend. Out of the four groomers "clipped" so far, two were guilty of allowing the dog to be seriously nicked or shaved and so were justifiably disqualified. That's what the lady doc from LA is there for, to attest to "no animals were harmed," etc.

But the producers repeatedly exploit abused dogs in the challenges: in only three episodes they've brought in St. Bernards who were not only seriously matted but had numerous soiled mats. Then they groomed standard poodles "unconventionally," which was not only ugly but involved cutting shapes into the coat down to the skin. Last week they brought in "poodle mixes" (like labradoodles) who were in equally bad shape to the St. Bernards and the girl who got sent home lost because in attempting to deal with this neglect rushed and nicked the dog.

I thought America's Greatest Dog offended the dignity of canines but this is really kind of sick, like Queer Eye For the Straight Guy (from which Groomer host Jai came) picking up homeless people to "make over." The very least they should be doing is telling the audience straight up: "Grooming is essential to the health and well-being of many different breeds of dogs and you shouldn't ever allow your pet to get into this condition. Bringing your dog in for regular bathing and grooming can prevent years of pain and medical expense."

I expect more from Artis in Beverly Hills Groomer when it debuts mid-May. But I'll probably be disappointed. At least it looks like Artis' pet shih-tzu is featured and he should be well taken care of.
 

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They don't need to just give great cuts, they need to show they're well rounded in dealing with dogs in general, which is why they have tests like grooming uncooperative/aggressive dogs, puppies, specific breeds etc. They have a professional groomer to judge the cuts, a veterinary to judge how they handled the dog in ways appropriate for their health/breed, a guest judge tailored for each challenge (Publisher of magazines they are competing to be in, a trainer for difficult dog episodes, etc) and considering the fact it IS a reality show, a judge to be a jerk. It makes good TV.
see, that sounds good on paper, but its not executed well at all. the vet for example, comes across as a vet that groomers would hate (graco knows, the one who tells groomers what their job is, and what they should be doing to the dogs). Last season, she was going off during one episode about getting water in the dogs ears. i felt like screaming through the whole episode. she finally shut up when joey told her that a professional groomer should be able to bath a dog without getting water in its ears (and without running to the cotton everytime). I cant recall Xavier saying anything remotely intelligent about grooming (besides the dog looking good or bad). if the vet and xavier stuck to what they know (being a vet and dog handler), then it would be ok. but they insist on acting like they know as much as joey. i'm sure the contestants know more about grooming than either of those judges.

philovance, you bring up a good point, and a valid reason for why i dont really like this show. to me, it allows people to think of groomers as miracle workers. all they show are these groomers getting dogs that are "so matted", completing them in 1-2 hours, and the dogs looking perfect. customers everywhere will be wondering why their groomer cant do that to their matted shih tzu that hasnt been groomed in 6 months. it would be nice if someone said something about the regular upkeep of the dogs. my old boss who breeds standard poodles out here in socal was actually contacted last season to see if they could use her dogs. they actually said the dogs could not be groomed in any way for a month prior to shooting. im sure the other dog owners are told the same thing.

***I put "so matted" in quotes b/c honestly, not many of these dogs have been in that bad of shape. I groomed a samoyed with at least a bowl full of hair that had poop all over it a week ago, no dog on this show has ever been that bad. i laugh every time a groomer says "i got the most matted one", um no you didnt, i did, and i do every day. the only dog to ever really be in bad shape was the dog Artist groomed at the shelter last season.

do people really love artist that much? i forgot about him till i heard about the new show. i actually know a breeder who was filmed for the show (he went out to her property and "groomed" her dogs). according to them, he isnt actually a real groomer, more of a glorified bather. they did say he was nice though
 

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see, that sounds good on paper, but its not executed well at all. the vet for example, comes across as a vet that groomers would hate (graco knows, the one who tells groomers what their job is, and what they should be doing to the dogs). Last season, she was going off during one episode about getting water in the dogs ears. i felt like screaming through the whole episode. she finally shut up when joey told her that a professional groomer should be able to bath a dog without getting water in its ears (and without running to the cotton everytime). I cant recall Xavier saying anything remotely intelligent about grooming (besides the dog looking good or bad). if the vet and xavier stuck to what they know (being a vet and dog handler), then it would be ok. but they insist on acting like they know as much as joey. i'm sure the contestants know more about grooming than either of those judges.
Exactly what my last sentence covered. It makes good TV. Reality TV shows don't care about accuracy. They care about what people would watch and be reactive to. The show is geared towards the general public that doesn't know that much about grooming.
 

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Yeah I think that they should make it more about caring for the dogs health while grooming!
 

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I enjoy watching the show for entertainment....not sure how accurate it actually is....

I don't like their new guest "celebrity" judges this season...if they are going to bring on guest judges I think they should at least know something about grooming a dog...otherwise, it just doesn't make any sense why they are a judge :confused:
 

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Last week was not a grooming competition. It was a speed dematting competition, IMO, which is irresponsible, dangerous, and inhumane.
I can't remember the exact quote to the guy in the bottom two who didn't get much done because he was trying to demat the dog and not hurt it with the vacuum razor. I believe the judge said "I mean, it's great you're wanting to be humane with the dogs.. but it's a competition." :eek:
 

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Last years judges were stupid.. I hated the vet lady... She knew absolutely nothing about grooming... The big guy was just arrogant. I'm glad Artist won.. he deserved it.
 
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