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Soro was taken to the vet and the vet detected giardia cysts in his stool. Symptoms described at the very end for those who are interested. But it was no surprise, since he's gone 9 years romping through the woods, drinking questionable water and eating questionable things. My bigger question would be 'why now?' but I don't think I will ever find the answer to such things. IF this is even giardia. Anyways...

He is being put on metronidazole for week.

I asked about panacur, because the 'internet' pretty unanimously agrees that panacur helps with giardia. But I was told at the vet's, "panacur works for a lot of other parasites but not giardia." Clearly one source is very right and another is very wrong. Any insight on that?

For those who have experience treating giardia with metro, how long did it take for you to see an effect? I have been sleeping in the living room with my dog because my partner is slightly allergic (so no dog in bedroom) and so my dog can wake me up if he needs to go out. Hardly an ideal situation, but necessary. I am just hoping it will help enough that he can hold it through the night soon, instead of urgently needing to go out to have explosive diarrhea.

Lastly, for those who have dealt with giardia in the past, have you seen a recurrence or higher chance of symptoms showing in the future? I am not about to restrict him from off leash hiking and drinking from rivers. He gets into a puddle or nibbles on some manure every once in a while but I do try to prevent him from doing those things when possible.

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Symptoms:

Two-ish days ago he was walked twice on leash and both walks he produced normal poop. That evening, about 5-7 hours after his evening walk, he had a blowout in the kitchen which consisted of slush piles of poop. Upon letting him out he pooped again, slushy with mucous. A few hours later he had to go again and it was still slushy, watery, and had a few drops of bright red blood.

When morning properly arrived, I fed him chicken with rice and a tiny bit of kibble, and took him to work with me. Throughout the day he had to go 3-4 times, each times producing watery, slushy stool. He vomited once and brought up partially digested breakfast, then tried to eat it which I discouraged. I did not feed him anything that evening but he drank a lot of plain chicken broth. That night I proactively woke to let him out and he peed, but no poop.

The second morning, I fed him chicken and rice. Later in the afternoon, he pooped a very small quantity that had form but was very soft.
I fed him rice and kibble in the late afternoon.
Later in the evening, I walked him again and his stool was once again a slurry.
At that point I said "Screw it" and fed him his normal amount of kibble, then resigned myself to sleeping in the living room and expected to have to wake up multiple times in the night to bring him out (which did happen).

Vet appointment happened this morning.

This is abnormal for my dog because what normally happens is my dog eats something disagreeable, diarrhea's and possibly vomits for a day. I may withhold one meal but feed him regularly otherwise and his stools are completely fine the following day.
 

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Google Pet Alive Parasite Doctor..its a natural capsule, smells like clove, you give 2x a day( some dogs don't mind the taste sprinkled on food) I had a puppy who came with Giardia,,and she was on multiple treatments of Panacure, and it didn't work, then another medicine from vet,,still kept coming back positive. I finally found a natural product online, gave it to her till it was gone, for 30 days, her next stool sample,was clear! Vet was amazed!Then I had another adult couple years later,who came down with it, at 5 years old, just the,cysts,,which aren't contagious, I immediately put her on the Pet Alive, next sample was clear. None of the others got it. I swear, it WORKS! Good luck!
 

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Interesting... the vets only detected cysts in his stool, I think.
I'm not sure if the metro. is helping, though the vets said it might take up to three days for improvement. My dog doesn't need to poop urgently and explosively, but after one or two good poops it will be mush again, on the same day. I have been letting him gnaw on raw bone so I don't know if the solidness is from the drugs or the bone. Either way, I will monitor him but will definitely keep this product in mind. Thank you!
 

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Giardial cysts are somewhat difficult to identify in the stool, which is why we send all our fecals to the lab and have them do the tests on them… often they find cysts that we missed, and they also do a snap test for giardial antigen… even more sensitive test. Whoever told you Panacur does not treat Giardia is incorrect. In fact, it is considered by most specialists to be the most effective treatment for Giardia, though Metronidazole is still the more commonly used drug - the reason for that is Metronidazole ALSO treats several causes of diarrhea (particularly bloody, mucousy diarrhea) as well as having some effect against giardia. Panacur ONLY gets the organisms and does little to nothing for diarrhea (particularly if NOT caused by Giardia)… so if you are going to 'shotgun' the diarrhea dog with possible/probable Giardia, Metronidazole often is the one selected.
 

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Panacur absolutely does treat giardia. It's not my first choice, though, because depending on what form you get (powder or liquid) for a big dog it can be wicked expensive and a PITA to administer. I usually only use it if metronidazole doesn't work.
 

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Thanks for the info, lzrddr and sass! The metro helped Soro for the week he was on it. His stool wasn't great immediately but the urgency with which he had to get out to poop went away immediately. It took maybe 1-2 days for his stool to become normal. His last dose was Thursday night and he's been good until tonight (Sunday night)... Half soft and half liquid diarrhea. I just fed him his normal dinner and will walk him in a few hours, and also in the morning, to see if that was an anomaly. If he's still loose in the morning I'll try a three day round of panacur that I can get from work. If he's still loose after that, time for another vet visit and possibly some bloodwork.... He is still goofy doofy and fine in every other way.... :/
 

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Thanks for the info, lzrddr and sass! The metro helped Soro for the week he was on it. His stool wasn't great immediately but the urgency with which he had to get out to poop went away immediately. It took maybe 1-2 days for his stool to become normal. His last dose was Thursday night and he's been good until tonight (Sunday night)... Half soft and half liquid diarrhea. I just fed him his normal dinner and will walk him in a few hours, and also in the morning, to see if that was an anomaly. If he's still loose in the morning I'll try a three day round of panacur that I can get from work. If he's still loose after that, time for another vet visit and possibly some bloodwork.... He is still goofy doofy and fine in every other way.... :/
I will say that when I treated Molly with pancur for it - or, well, the vet did - it was actually 7 days, not 3. I don't know if that's normal or not, but it actualy took all 7 days to work.
 

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Interesting! When we have it at work we do the 3 day panacur that comes in the little white and blue baggies. But when I've had it with my personal dogs, the vet normally does metro. Metro usually works pretty fast, within 48 hours. Last week grey didnt have giardia but she had something else (gah cant remember, clostridium maybe?) and the metro worked within 12 hours- diarrhea had stopped by the evening of the am vet appointment, I've never had it work that fast.
 
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