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I was in the park with Atka the other day when someon walking a GSD was coming toward me. They were having trouble with their dog (pulled like a train and on a flexi lead.. they did put her on a standard leed b4 they got to me).

I stopped next to the path and put Atka in a by me, down wait.. leash looped over her back and I was not holding it.

I told them to walk on by.. but they stopped ant talked. I looked their dog over and was glad for my dog (theirs had a nicer top line but she was not substantive). As she was standing there I looked at her hind feet and she was standing so far back on her foot that her toe pads were off the ground and pointing straight forward and the toe nails were pointing at the sky. The dog was not pulling and she could stand with her feet flush to the ground and normal, but often her pads were as I describe.

Anyone ever see this sort of thing? Just seemed weird.

Meanwhile, to my dog's credit she stayed by me and the owner of the other dog made excuses for her dog's beahvior.. "her first Female GSD and she always had males and she is Only Two years old...." Uhh.. I had to say it.. "Atka is female and 2 years old" as Atka was lying next to me behaving herself... LOL

Still, the dog's hind foot looked awkward.. and I wondered what sort of pressure that put on her hocks and stifles. She did not seem lame or off at all on her gait. I saw it and was thankful she was a spay.
 

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I'm not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean she was standing on her hocks?
 

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No. She was standing on the back of her foot.. (that is the best way to describe this) but her pastern was upright.. well not vertical but not on her hocks either.

The feet were under her, not stretched out behind her, when she did this. Her canon (the bones between the hock and the foot) were not plumb.. maybe 20 degrees out of plumb and really not incorrect. She was no way on her hocks. Her feet looked like she was but she was on the very back of the main pad of the foot..

If she were a horse, it would be like the horse standing on his fetlock joint with the foot pointing forward so you could see the bottom of it.. but the cannon bone above the fetlock joint is still normal to the hock. Does that help?
Like I said.. it was weird.
 

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No...I just can't picture it o_O Of course, I don't know what plumb means either xD

Sounds awkward though
 

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Drawing Attached. Plumb means perpendicular to the ground. In engineering and surveying you "drop a plumb line" so you know where vertical is. The Leaning Tower of Pizza is not plumb, tho it is my understanding it was designed plumb, but the footings were insufficient and as they were building it, the thing went out of plumb and leans...... and continues to this day (I think it was leaning further and further but the lean has been arrested by structural reinforcement).

In the drawing, you will see the "plumb line" behind the cannon and the foot with the toe pads not on the surface of the ground.. and the toe nails pointing at the sky.

Sorry for the drawing skills.. too early to put in a good effort and then I have to photograph the drawing and then reduce it for posting... LOL
I hope this picture is 'worth a thousand words'... and none of them 4 letters!
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Wow...that is awkward.

And I think you mean Leaning Tower of Pisa...but a Leaning Tower of Pizza would be freakin' awesome, LOL!
 

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Pizza.. Pisa.. all sounds the same to me tho one REALLY does seem more edible! If it were Pizza I want to be on the side it is leaning towards with mouth open! The other one.. No way...

THIS is what happens after 4 days of "helping Mom" at her house.. and taking time "off(??)" from work to do it and then getting up and sneaking in some DF time first....

Anyway... the dog with the toes pointing up behind has not been eating Pizza.. she is not fat.. and it seems to me the ONLY time I want any reference to a dog and "toes up" is when I am discussing the Rainbow Bridge.

Bottom line is that I looked at those feet and whatever the breeder crossed with whatever I would think the words Spay and Neuter would come to mind. I do not know the breeder but I have seen her ads in the Penny Saver. Not often but they are there and the prices are not low. BYB I suspect.
 
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