[Calmlittlebuddha]

Hello, last week I reduced Tru, a 13 week old lab beagle mix. She was spayed and had a hernia surgery on Friday January 8th. Two days after the surgery she started experiencing very frequent urination and urgency. We took her back to the vet who preformed her surgeries and he prescroved. oral amoxicillin twice a day for ten days but he did not even test her ruin after I suggested it. Before her surgery she was doing great and having very few accidents. Now she is going extremely frequently. When she does urinate she will go three times right in a row and then sometimes comes back inside and will go again. It's like what ever she drinks comes right back out? Her urine has no odor, is very clear and comes out in larger amounts instead of little drops. We are familiar with bladder issues, our cat who recently passed away had dealt with chronic cystitis flares. She would not have infections but inflammation of her bladder which would only calm down with steroids, which sadly led to her kidney failure. We actually decided to get a dog this time because we did not want to see another cat go through bladder issues. We have been trying to research this issue in dogs and read that sometimes after a spay Urethral sphincter mechanism incompetence can occurs because hormones levels can change or their bladder can be damaged during the surgery. We are not so much concerned with her accidents in the house we just don't want her to be in pain or even uncomfortable. She is such a good dog we just want her to feel better. Thank you for your help.

 

[storyist]

Are you saying you rescued (adopted) her and took her back to the vet the organization you got her from used? I know it's hard in these Covid times, but something's wrong. I'd want a different vet who'd take this seriously to look at her - urine test, blood test.

 

[parus]

I second the idea of seeing another vet if you feel the first wasn't thorough. I'd think testing for a UTI at least would be called for.

Sometimes female dogs do have long-term incontinence issues after spays but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. It could be something as benign as she's currently drinking more, and therefore urinating more, in response to the surgery and/or a medication that is or was in her system recently. Increased thirst/dry mouth is a side effect of amoxycillin in humans - don't know about dogs. She's still healing, and it's possible her need to "go" feels more urgent due to inflammation and tenderness.

 

[DaySleepers]

I agree, if the vet is dismissing your concerns and declining tests you want done, get a second opinion.

 

[3GSD4IPO]

Many times vets will prescribe an antibiotic for a UTI WITHOUT testing. It is an inexpensive non-invasive answer and if the dog does have a UTI the answer is still the same. Some will prescribe because you need to get a urine sample, then they need to take the sample and see if it grows bacteria and then you come back and get antibiotic. Skipping all that and treating reduces the time the dog has to suffer if a UTI is present (I have been down this road myself with two dogs).

Assuming your dog has finished the course of antibiotics it is now unlikely a urine sample will grow bacteria. So.. you wait.

What is more concerning and what was not mentioned is the frequency she is drinking. If she is drinking a LOT more now and is peeing a LOT more now, you need to go back to the vet and ask for blood work (or go to a different vet). The concern I would have is possible kidney issues from the anesthesia. The clarity of the urine means she is passing a LOT of water through. It may mean nothing but I surely would ASK because asking does not hurt anything!!

The other issue is the dog had a prebubescent spay which means she never had a heat and was spayed. This means she has a different vulva physiologically than a dog that was allowed to have a heat prior to spay.

Prebuscent spay can lead to urinary incontinence as well as a recessed vulva which can increase the chances of a UTI (I had a dog like this.. and when she was mature the vet had to do an episioplasty on her vulva which truly was necessary).

I am only suggesting things here to discuss with your veterinarian and that is who you must go to for answers.

Good Luck!!!

 

[Calmlittlebuddha]

Thank you all so much for the help. I did take her back to the vet who preformed her surgery but will be switching to a new one as soon as possible. She dose drink a lot of water but not Excessively. I thought it seemed to early to spay her but none of her sisters had issues after the surgery just her. I am going to do everything that I can to help her, Thank you again.

 

[agility collie mom]

Glad she has been to see your vet. Sometimes a spay can cause irritation to the bladder. The bladder lies right next to the uterus and the vet sometimes handles the bladder during the spay procedure.

 

[Calmlittlebuddha]

Hello, just an update on tru, she was seen by a new vet, they said her bladder looks inflamed on the X-ray. They are also sending her uribe out for testing, I am thinking it is either a UTI ot cystitis. Is there anything more that I can do to help her while we are waiting for the results? If anyone has any tips on bladder issues in puppies or dogs like if there is a type of food or another supplement that I could try I would apprciate it. Has anyone ever tired this product Bladder Strength for Dogs by Vetri-Science
Thank you!
Ps . Right now I am slowly switching her over to blue buffalo puppy kibble because it contains no corn .

 

[agility collie mom]

I would not jump the gun and start any supplements yet. Wait for the results from the uranalysis first. Did they start her on antibiotics?

 

[Calmlittlebuddha]

Thank you collie mom. They did not give her any more antibiotics yet since she was on amoxicillin for ten days with no improvement. Do you or dose anyone know if dogs can get cystitis? Thank you for your help.

 

[RonE]

Dogs can, in fact, get cystitis - usually the result of a bacterial infection. Your vet would likely treat it with a course of antibiotics.

 

[Calmlittlebuddha]

Hello, test are back, no infection and X-rays look good, vet said to call next week. I am wondering if it's something with heR kidneys since her urine is diluted and she dose drink a lot of water, dose surgery affect the kidneys ever? Or could it still be spay inconstancy, Would that start two days after surgery? Thank you so much for helping.

 

[Deacon.dog]

spaying can cause incontinence, especially spaying young.

 

[Calmlittlebuddha]

Thank you deacon, is there anything more that I can do to help her with this? When she dose urinate she will go a little and a few seconds later go more. She never leaks or goes at night, she even sleeps through the night, I am right by her and a light sleeper. I feel bad because she was fine fore the surgery. Has anyone had any success with Amitriptyline or a calming product? Thank you for your reply!