Please remember the second half of my statement.. that it bothers me that people simply mix Poodle with other breeds instead of sticking to the developed breeds. Meaning, there is no other thought given. I'm not saying that the majority of people will go for this (they obviously don't given the fact that Doodle breeding is so popular) but I just don't like it. It's just what I believe..
Point taken . . . it is the Poodle mixin' that bothers you most. The 'no other thought given' is a blanket statement and does not apply to all.
Thank you for stating that you just have a desire to direct people toward already established breeds . . . . because it is just something you believe. We all have the right to believe in what we want.
I do happen to believe very differently to you and have no desire to see the current list of breeds remain static. To me, that is a stick in the eye of evolution. A reflection of the fact that some self appointed people in clubs who think they are doing better, are trying to force their model of breeding on the rest of us. Dog evolutions was never meant to remain static after the onset of the 20th Century.
I also happen to really put a lot of stake in my freedom of choice.
It doesn't sit right with me...
Good to know that is where you are coming from.
The majority of Doodle breeders are not breeding because they want to develop a breed. They are breeding dogs for companion purposes only, not trying to develop a breed. ...
In today's society with our needs, a fine reason for breeding . . . right there. If a breeder is truly working for these qualities, and doing all they should to ensure a sound pup that is backed for life, I won't slight them.
The idea of a companion mix being marketed as a new breed is something I just don't like. ...
I agree with you here. I don't like the 'marketting' of dogs by gimmicks at all. This includes, of course, the many gimmicks that unscrupulous purebred breeders use as well as those that unscrupulous mixbreed breeders use.
There IS physical, health, and temperamental variation in these dogs and they are therefore NOT the superdogs that people make them out to be. I have much less of a problem with those mixed breed breeders who are not sticking to the first generation dogs and are truly trying to develop a line of healthy dogs that breed true. Still don't find it necessary in the case of the Doodles, but breeding to develop a breed is much different IMO than breeding two completely different dogs (even if they are health tested and what not) simply to sell first-generation puppies....
Many people (like me) are not fools thinking that their crosses will be 'superdogs'. I actually think very few people go into a pup thinking it will be such, and those that do would be sucked in by the unscrupulous purebred breeder marketting their 'superdogs' just as easily.
There appears to be some, however, who believe that because we do have numpty buyers who'll believe anything out there, that the rest of us should suffer some kind of regulation . . . . we need to be protected some how from our own assumed stupidity . . . . not my kind of thinking.
I like many first gen crosses - have loved the Cockapoo forever and see no need to change that up. Some first gen crosses work more predictably than others, and there are easily identifiable reasons for that, by conformation and genetics. I am actually quite dismayed there are those organizing to try to make this a breed. (Although, come to think of it, if someone has an F1 x F1 smooth face - shedding coat Cockapoo planned for summer 2013, pmail, I'll be looking for a pack addition about then.
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I have NO problem with breeds like the Tamaskan, which was actually developed in to a real breed, or working crosses. But the idea of crossing two purebred dogs together to form a hypoallergenic mix (who isn't even always hypoallergenic) without any final end product that breeds true is something I just cannot get behind. Not fond of sport dog mixes, either.
Wow, true hard core breed proponent then. Good to know. Very opposite to any of my feelings on the subject. If I had my way we'd be dumping a huge number of breeds' and mixing them back toward their generic landraces, keeping open registries, as there are just too many with too small gene pools. Failed experiments I would call them, and at the expense of the health of the puppies produced.
Because people who pimp their dogs do it for the money, and adding Poodle to the mix ups the price. Sadly, this is why a growing number of ethical Poodle breeders do pediatric neuters/spays. And, why it's very difficult for just anyone to obtain a quality female Standard Poodle.
This is not a situation reserved for those that breed mixed dogs though is it. I know of many a Poodle pimp working within the purebred system - pimping their studs to approved Poodle bitches with truly too little thought or knowledge as to what is being brought to them . . . . but I guess if its to a same-breed girl we'll just not mention it, hey?
Poodle breeders doing pediatric neuters are doing so to maintain control over the progeny of what they produce and protect their bloodlines from getting out . . . if they are producing quality this is incredibly selfish and short sighted, JMHO. They were doing so in many breeds long before mixbreeding became popular . . . . this is not a new idea.
In regards to pimping dogs, you might be interested in this little paper showing purebred studs hired for 20+ mounts in a month at an average stud fee of 1000 Euros. Pimps indeed!
The Stud Business in the SV Kennel Club, 2003-2007 -
http://www.bloggen.be/hd/archief.php?ID=26860
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