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Anyone try the new (ish) Earthborn Holistic food? It is made in the US, has several recipies and I notice that at least one recipe gets 5 stars on dogfoodanalysis.com.

http://www.earthbornholisticpetfood.com/us/

Thoughts anyone?
 

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I've been feeding the Earthborn "Primitive Natural" for over 2 years now. I like it very much. The Primitive Natural is grain-free; they have a few grain-free recipes and a few with grains that are still good quality. The PN is the only one to get 6 stars, the other grain free are 5 stars I think. The smell of the dry food is wholesome, not stinky. The bites are tiny, like pencil eraser size. I like the trial bags of the fish formula as training treats since they smell more strongly.

Chester's coat is very nice, thick and shiny and his poops are regular and small and not too smelly. I think the calorie count is good, it is high protein but less than Orijien. Chester is 76 lbs and gets 2.5 cups per day.

I cold-turkey switched Luna over to Earthborn when she arrived (switching from Pedigree) and immediately, her poops went from nasty and huge and just plain horrible to solid and less smelly and regular. She has gained weight slowly but surely on it (she arrived about 5-6 lbs underweight) and her coat also got softer. She's been on it about 4 months.

I switched the previous foster over and she tolerated the change well, but she wasn't with me long enough to really see a change in her coat or body condition.
 

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I have a bag here but the feline formula our "basement cat." I want to see how he does on it and I might try it for the boys just for something different.
 

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I tried Ginger on one of the grainfrees but can't remember which one; she did fine on it. I believe that Meggels has fed it as well.
 

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One thing about DFA (dog food advisor) is that they don't rate grain inclusive foods vey high even if they are pretty good, they always have some 'eh' comment to say about it.

Not to say they aren't a great site cuz they are, Izze had grain allergies & needed grain free & Josefina just 'got used' to eating it so I was stuck feeding it lol. Plus I like more protien from meats then plants or grains. Haven't tried earthborn, I'm feeding natures variety inctinct with Stella & chewy's raw patties.
 

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There is a new feed store near me that I thought I would give a try. I am a bleeding heart for people just trying to make a go of a business so I went to buy a few things. I bought a few bags of food and some extremely pricey treats. They are duck tenderloins that the dogs LOVE. The sad things is I thought the bag said "made in the USA" which I like but it is made in China which I HATE. No offense but there have been so many problems from the food coming from China. I am tempted to just toss them out but they ate half of them without issue so... Guess I just won't buy any more.

Does made in the USA mean anything to anyone else where dog food is concerned?
 

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There is a new feed store near me that I thought I would give a try. I am a bleeding heart for people just trying to make a go of a business so I went to buy a few things. I bought a few bags of food and some extremely pricey treats. They are duck tenderloins that the dogs LOVE. The sad things is I thought the bag said "made in the USA" which I like but it is made in China which I HATE. No offense but there have been so many problems from the food coming from China. I am tempted to just toss them out but they ate half of them without issue so... Guess I just won't buy any more.

Does made in the USA mean anything to anyone else where dog food is concerned?
Absolutely! Because of forums like this, I'm very aware of the quality control issues with food and treats from China. My colleague gave my dog a bag of treats as a "get well" gift after her recent surgery. The treats were made in China; guilty as I feel, they're going in the trash.
 

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There is a new feed store near me that I thought I would give a try. I am a bleeding heart for people just trying to make a go of a business so I went to buy a few things. I bought a few bags of food and some extremely pricey treats. They are duck tenderloins that the dogs LOVE. The sad things is I thought the bag said "made in the USA" which I like but it is made in China which I HATE. No offense but there have been so many problems from the food coming from China. I am tempted to just toss them out but they ate half of them without issue so... Guess I just won't buy any more.

Does made in the USA mean anything to anyone else where dog food is concerned?
Made in the USA or Made in Canada/western Europe or homemade using people food (I made basic dog biscuits and dry meat treats and such or of course, fresh veggies and things like that).

The great thing is, that more people are recognizing the safety and quality benefits of buying US/Canada made food and treats. Within the past 6 months, 2 locally owned stores have opened that sell strictly US/Canada dog and cat food, treats and products. It is great for the animals, the profits stay local, the owners of both are huge supporters of rescue (the one store donated 1200 LBS! of dog food to the rescue I foster Luna for last week) and the buyers can trust what they are getting.
 

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Made in the USA or Made in Canada/western Europe or homemade using people food (I made basic dog biscuits and dry meat treats and such or of course, fresh veggies and things like that).

The great thing is, that more people are recognizing the safety and quality benefits of buying US/Canada made food and treats. Within the past 6 months, 2 locally owned stores have opened that sell strictly US/Canada dog and cat food, treats and products. It is great for the animals, the profits stay local, the owners of both are huge supporters of rescue (the one store donated 1200 LBS! of dog food to the rescue I foster Luna for last week) and the buyers can trust what they are getting.
That is AWESOME!!! I am going to talk to the guy that owns this new store because I think they just are not overly knowledgeable. They are so nice and they looked up "high quality foods" and those are the ones they are carrying. I think they could go one step further and go "made in the US or Canada" to be safe. I do feel bad throwing stuff out but... better safe then sorry.

This looks feasible if you are weaning a dog to raw. Mix a little of it to raw meat until the dog gets used to the taste of raw meat.
dustinshaw I won't be going raw with my dogs. I tried that years ago and I had one dog that did horrible. I have one now that simply won't tough raw meat. I do however, feed tons of fresh meats to my dogs, I just have to grill it a bit for them or brown it in a pan. They will do rare, but not raw. I do a lot of home cooking for the dogs too but I do not want them off kibble completely. I would say my dogs are eat very very healthy but I always wonder when I am trying new foods what other peoples experiences are.
 

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I have been feeding Earthborn Holistic Ocean Fusion to my 3 year old Great Pyrenees for the last six months, after switching from Trader Joe's Lamb and Rice. I feel that for the extra expense, my dog's coat was much more luxurious on the less expensive dog food. I've always supplemented with either regular fish oil or Trader Joe's wild salmon oil capsules for the Omega 3's, which should be helping with the coat. My dog doesn't like the Ocean Fusion as much as the cheaper stuff, and her stool seems harder even though she's drinking just as much water. During six month timeframe, we've acquired two puppies, a Papillon and a Pomeranian who are both about 5 1/2 months old and on the Earthborn Holistic Puppy Vantage. Same program with them, when we run out, which is not very often because this stuff doesn't seem to fly off the shelf, I substitute with something like Taste of the Wild Venison and Bison, Natural Balance Original Ultra, or Even Rachael Ray's Zero Grain (which they love), and they do much better poopwise. The little ones seem to get stopped up on the Puppy Vantage, it seems too dry for them, and the Pyrenees as well. With bloat a problem for Pyrenees, I'm thinking that maybe this food isn't a good one for the breed. Also, with the pups, if its too dry, maybe they need something with a bit more fat. My vet, who I respect very much, seems to think that any name brand dog food that you buy at the supermarket is fine to feed your dog because she's seen many dogs live to 16-17 years of age on Purina. People these days have gotten far too fussy with their dogs. I can't imagine my parents brushing my childhood dog's teeth, yet I pay hundreds of dollars to have my dog's teeth cleaned - much more than I do for my own dental care. Dogs just took care of their own teeth with raw soup bones, which are a little hard to find these days.

By the way, for 2 bags of food, 28 lbs of Ocean Fusion, and 6 lbs of Puppy Vantage, I paid $73 dollars the other day. That's pretty steep for something that my dogs don't even like and doesn't do much for their coats. Also, its really hard to find when you're traveling - which we do a lot. I try to pack enough, but it's tough when you get stuck with not enough food and nobody carries the food because it has to be special ordered.
 

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Bloat has nothing to do with pooping or not. Bloat, as referenced, means the dog's stomach flipping over itself. Eating and drinking a lot, then exercise, seems to be risk factors, but even that's a bit hard to know.

Also, frankly, smaller poops mean that the dog is getting more nutrition is going into the dog and less waste. If they're truly constipated, it's one thing, but I'm not entirely sure 'harder poops' are the same as constipation.

THAT said, there's nothing wrong with feeding something else. Not all dogs do well on all 5 star, high quality foods. Some do better on one thing, some on another. Figuring out what works best for your dogs takes some trial and error.

(Though that's a pretty good deal, cost wise. 1 28lb of the food I feed (Wellness Core) is about 70.00. Sometimes 75.)
 

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The ash content in their grain-free varieties is quite high. I emailed them about their grain-free Meadow feast food specifically and the ash percentage is 9.1%. I decided that was much too high (wheatens can have kidney problems genetically. There is no cases of the diseases in Alannah's bloodline, but I still don't want to push the issue - so I don't want something that can be taxing on her kidneys) so I decided against EBH.
 

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Luke does fantastic on the Earthborn Holistic fish formula. I haven't tried the other flavors with him yet, but I try to feed that one every other rotation or so because he does so great on it. He is pracitcally itch free, his ears are clean and his poops are awesome. Plus I get email coupons every so often and it frequently goes on sale at the Pet Supplies Plus.
 

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I feed Faolan Earthborn Holistic Grain-Free (Legend has to have special food). We switch between the different flavors (but I try to feed the Primitive Natural more than the others because it's better quality) and he has great skin and coat and healthy poops. He seems to really love it.
 

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outside of the PN, EBH is a so-so food. the only formula worth anything is the PN & for someone like me who likes the option of rotation within a single brand ... if i find i really like the brand.

right now i feed B2B pork, if i find a food i REALLY like, then i stick with it because its hard to find a food that everyone likes (we have 4 dogs here btw my folks & myself) AND 'works' for everyone.

so unless one or more of the dogs or the company gives me a reason, i stay where i am at.
 

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I feed Faolan Earthborn Holistic Grain-Free (Legend has to have special food). We switch between the different flavors (but I try to feed the Primitive Natural more than the others because it's better quality) and he has great skin and coat and healthy poops. He seems to really love it.
Primitive Natural has the highest ash content of all the Earthborn foods, which tends to be an indicator of the quality of the meats used in the food (in this case, not very good).

I feed the Great Plains Feast to my hound mix in her rotation, which still has slightly high ash, but not astronomical like the Primitive Natural. I would be very careful about feeding that formula long term...
 

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I bought a couple bags of the EB Primitive Naturals because it was on sale. Nothing too impressive; I haven't seen any amazingly improved fur or anything, although the dogs like it (but, then, my dogs would gladly eat old socks :p). The cats like it, too, and are always trying to steal it from the dogs, but maybe that's just because the kibble size is smaller than most dog foods. Anyway, I probably won't go out of my way to buy it again, although maybe now and then if it's the same sale price. I think I'll try Fromm next.
 

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4 out of my 5 dogs are on a Earthborn Grain Free rotation. They love it and I love that its priced nicely and made in the USA. They all do very well on it.
 
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