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long story I have a dog who's been throwing up occasionally since October. She's seen the local vet a couple times in Oct and recently saw a GI specialist. We've done fecals, blood panels and blood tests for specific issues like Addisons, did barium pills, barium swallow, and an ultrasound. Switched her food from TOTW+ probiotic to Purina HA and Science Diet + probiotic and anti vomiting meds. Planning on doing a scope next week. I am using good vets but just wondered if people want to chime in thier stories dealing with allergies and IBS. Did anyoen ahve a dog that has same symptoms? Just throwing up.

Dog has great stool, no diareaha. She is perky and her usual self. Loves her food. even the new HA stuff. She's always had grain free foods, first innova and then totw. I;ve been feeding her totw lamb all summer but switched her to fowl this oct. Honastly the only wheat she gets in her training treats which are turkey meatballs. I stoped using them this oct as well. went to just chicken as a training treat.

Honastly at this point if she has a food allergy it's got to be chicken that she's allergic to. But vets want me to keep her on this HA food for 4-6 weeks, get her off the emds then re-introduce new foods. The thought that she won't be on HA forever.

the specialist is leaning towards IBS. He says treatment is steroids tapering off the dose to the smallest ammount she needs. She could me on steroids her whole life. or not. Yuck. I hope to get a definate diagnosis after the scope. And then follow recomended treatment protocol. But I;d like to be able to manage her for her whole life with good quality food and not drugs.
 

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Does she have any other symptoms other than occasionally throwing up? How often is she throwing up? Going through all those tests and considering steroids seems like a quick leap if she is otherwise symptom-free. My vet thinks our dog has IBD. She's on Hills z/d + Tylan for it (protein in the z/d is hydrolized and too small to be an irritant). She used to vomit, get bloody, runny, stools, lethargy, wouldn't eat. She once got dehydrated because of it and had to be put on an IV. We have not had her biopsied, which I think is the only way to confirm IBD. From what I've read, many vets treat for it without the biopsy and if the dog gets better, they continue with the treatment. If my vet recommended steroids, though, I would go for the biopsy before putting her on them.

I'm not an expert in any way on this. Just commenting that the treatment seems a little aggressive. BTW, after many food trials, it became clear that our girl could not tolerate the richer dog foods like Innova, Eagle Pack, etc. The z/d seems to be working - she's been on it for 3 years now with the Tylan 2x a day. So the Purina HA for a couple of months (with NO other treats or food) will help you figure out if food is the irritant. Maybe after that a grain-free, limited ingredient, single source new protein food would work? Possibly with the Tylan? Maybe a step to consider before putting her on steroids for life.

Hopefully someone with more experience & medical expertise will chime in. I hope you figure it out soon. I know this can be very frustrating.

P.S. Is it possible there's something new in your dog's environment causing the vomiting? Just a thought.
 

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I am not much use but reading several reviews while researching dog food I have read that Innova Evo actually helps a lot with this its great quality no fillers and grain free. Its worth a shot. I have never been through this just going off what others said it did for their dog.
 

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You went off TOTW and went to Purina and SD? Ouch. My cat had horrible diarrhea when we got him and he was on SD, both kibble and then "prescription" canned. I put him on TOTW and stopped buying the SD canned and he hasn't had diarrhea in over 2 years. The canned SD had some really yucky stuff in it even though it also had stuff to firm up his poop. It's an artificial way of making them seem healthy. It's treating the symptom, not the problem. Stick to the higher quality food.

With the Purina HA the ingredients are Starch, hydrolyzed soy protein isolate, vegetable oil, calcium phosphate, partially hydrogenated canola oil preserved with TBHQ, powdered cellulose, corn oil, etc. so there is absolutely no meat in it at all? What?? Most SD has little to no meat as well.

This really doesn't sound good for your dog.
 

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Winnec thanks that was super helpful and what I was looking for. Other people xpereinces. The dog is 2.5yo. Has past history of coccidia, giardia and colitis. She started throwing up 1 meal per day 4-5 hrs after eating the meal every other day in early Oct. She had 1 stool with blood. After a couple weeks of this I took her tothe vets on a Firday. based upon her past hisory and current symptoms they put her on cerina (anti vomit) and metronidazole (antibiotic) she went home and promply started throwing up after every meal. Took her in on Monday and vet was worried about foreign body which was why she did the barium pills and swallow and xrays. back to vets on tues and confirm no foreign body. Her next suspicion is food allergy or IBS so that's why we switched over to the HA foods. Right now we're at 5 weeks since the start of the vomiting.
 

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I am not much use but reading several reviews while researching dog food I have read that Innova Evo actually helps a lot with this its great quality no fillers and grain free. Its worth a shot. I have never been through this just going off what others said it did for their dog.
I had this dog on Innova she had loose stooles off and on with that food. I switched her off to TOTW and stools firmed up.

this dog has always had grain free food adn treats (except for meatballs) and been on a probiotic for her entire life.
 

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With the Purina HA the ingredients are Starch, hydrolyzed soy protein isolate, vegetable oil, calcium phosphate, partially hydrogenated canola oil preserved with TBHQ, powdered cellulose, corn oil, etc. so there is absolutely no meat in it at all? What?? Most SD has little to no meat as well.

This really doesn't sound good for your dog.
Sib you are right, IF you took this out of context. Meaning if you had a healthy normal dog you would never in a million years switch from TOTW to a HA diet. No on in thier right mind would do so. But this is not a 100% healthy dog, this is a dog that threw up the TOTW as well as the chicken, rice,sweet potato, probiotic I was feeding her. Something has started a reation in her gut and now her gut appears to be fighting off normal food. So the hydrolized protiens in the HA food are inoffensive enough to get by the bodies defenses and be digested. That is all the theory at least. sorry if I have time later I'll find the linkt hat talks about hydrolyzed foods and intestines etc
 

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Winnec thanks that was super helpful and what I was looking for. Other people xpereinces. The dog is 2.5yo. Has past history of coccidia, giardia and colitis. She started throwing up 1 meal per day 4-5 hrs after eating the meal every other day in early Oct. She had 1 stool with blood. After a couple weeks of this I took her tothe vets on a Firday. based upon her past hisory and current symptoms they put her on cerina (anti vomit) and metronidazole (antibiotic) she went home and promply started throwing up after every meal. Took her in on Monday and vet was worried about foreign body which was why she did the barium pills and swallow and xrays. back to vets on tues and confirm no foreign body. Her next suspicion is food allergy or IBS so that's why we switched over to the HA foods. Right now we're at 5 weeks since the start of the vomiting.
Now I can see how you got to where you are. Poca also had giardia several times as a young pup, which did not help at all. For what it's worth, the HA sounds like the way to go right now. Lots of people will tell you it's not good food, but you know what? It's better than a starving dog, which is where this leads in the end with a dog that can't keep food down and/or refuses to eat because her stomach is upset all the time. That's not a hard choice to make at all, IMO, even if it is horribly expensive.

Fast forward 3 years: we now have a dog that LOVES her food - a first! Do you know what I would have given for a dog that actually begged for food when she was going through all that? She is stable and hasn't had a serious episode since we began this new regimen. She'll get an upset stomach about every 6-8 weeks, but I increase her Tylan dose and put her on boiled chicken and rice and she rebounds within 12-24 hours. Way quicker than she used to. In the past she would be on metro + other drugs for a couple of weeks each incidence and would barely eat. So we keep our fingers crossed and hope this keeps working so that we don't have to go with steroids.

Best of luck to you. Post back and let us know how it's going.
 

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winniec777 so Tylan is an antibiotic? And your dog is on it for past 3 yrs? Can I ask why? Does it prevent "stuff" from growing in her guts? stuff like bacteria?

My dog loves food, all forms. Loves the HA food. But loved her old stuff, loved the barn owners fish food she found one day. If it's remotely related to food, she loves it. So no worries eating anything here. Just keeping it down.

SO she's eating and keeping down the HA food BUT she's also getting Metroclopromide (sp?) an anti vomiting pill (it helps move things along from the stomach to the sm and lg intestines) So my guess is that she's keeping the food down because of the medication, not because of the food. Only way to find out is to take her off the meds... But my instructions are to keep her on them until the scope... so I wait and see. And hope she goes under and comes out fine. I worry over anesthesia, but she's had a spay surgery and a dental and no problems so far.
 

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Yes, it's an antibiotic used as an anti-inflammatory for IBD colitis, among other things. My vet said it deals with bacterial overgrowth often found in dogs with IBD and keeps her intestines from getting irritated to the point she gets ill. Here's an overview of IBD treatment I found that is a bit technical for me but does a good job of outlining treatment progression.

http://www.cvm.umn.edu/Academics/Current_student/Notes/Inflammatory Bowel Disease.pdf

It's good she can take the Metroclopromide. Poca just outright refuses to take it in any form, which is weird since Tylan is SO much more nasty-tasting (yes, I taste my dog's meds - helps me understand what I'm dealing with when getting her to take them. :) ).

Good luck with the scope. I agree with you on the anesthesia. It is scary, but it sounds like she tolerates it ok. And I think your vet will know a lot more about what you're dealing with afterwards and what options you might have. Do post back with results and let us know how she's doing. Many good thoughts coming your way!!
 
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