Dog fights!!!

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trentap

Discussion Starter · Apr 11, 2009

i cant believe people would abuse pets this way. how could you force a loving creature that only wants you too be happy, to fight for your sick amusment. i just watched mickel vicks story on tv. i felt so sorry for those pittiful helpless dogs that were mistreated.

tell me wat you think about dog fights and wat we could do to help get rid of them.

PS: please show pics of your dog so this post wont be so sad.

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Keechak

· #2 · Apr 11, 2009

While I do hate the blood sport of dog fighting, I don't think there is anything anyone can do about dog fights in general.

Game bred Pitbulls have a natural fighting streak in them that is often uncontrolable no matter how well they are raised. so i guess the best way to stop dog fighting is to control what kinds of temperments are bred.

and whats really sad is that there are still places like Japan and the Japanese "Tosa Dog" that have legal dog fighting.

Twinney

· #3 · Apr 11, 2009

I veiw people who fight animals, whether it be horses, chickens, or dogs (as the most popular) as too cowardly to fight for themselves so they throw a different animal in to do it for them.

I agree with Keechak though, there really isn't much you can do but report suspected places of dog fighting.

That happened out here, and they found out that what was actually happening was a bunch of teens getting together and fighting eachother.

trentap

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 11, 2009

i wish more could be done to stop dog or any other kind of animal fights. i guess the only thing anyone could do is to try to reach out to young children to try to teach them how important it is to treat animals with kindness and gental care.

cshellenberger

· #5 · Apr 11, 2009

Unfortunately dogfighting is, all too often a cultural thing. It's considered a sport like cockfighting, bullfighting, rodeo events, dog racing and horse racing. Some ofthese things people on this forum are accepting of ( I know I love to go to the rodeo, greyhound race or horse race) others we aren't.
I think dog fighting is an abhorrent 'sport' however people in other cultures, especially in the orient and many 'third world' countries do not. PETA thinks all animal based sports are wrong, I and I think most others wouldn't agree with them.

Al lanybody can do is educate and report suspicious activity as well as work with lobbying groups to make dogfighting a felony, not ONLY becasue of the gambling involved, but to make animal cruelty equivelent to child abuse in the eyes of the law.

Inga

· #6 · Apr 11, 2009

I think that one thing that helps to some degree is educating the youth. There are programs where people go to city parks and train young people how to do weight pulling with their Pit Bulls instead of fighting. That way they can still prove how "bad" there dog is without killing it. Knowing better sometimes means doing better. Sadly, not always.

As far as what an individual can do about it. Pay attention to the goings on around you. If you suspect something, report it. That goes for ANY animal abuse. The police can only do something if they know about it.

Keechak

· #7 · Apr 11, 2009

PETA even thinks things like Agility and Flyball are wrong?

cshellenberger

· #8 · Apr 11, 2009

Keechak said:
PETA even thinks things like Agility and Flyball are wrong?

PETA thinks that animal ownership in ANY form is the equivelent of slavery. Yes, they think ANY animal sport is wrong as well as using animals to do any type of job (that includes seeing eye dogs and other types of service animals)

trentap

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 11, 2009

to me that is stupid. i like animal sports as long as they arent being abused. and from what i can tell animals like to run and swim and get any type of attention they can possibly get. what do they think we should just throw our dogs out side to defend themselves? that sounds to me like animal abuse

PS: dont get mad thats just my opinion

BestInShow

· #10 · Apr 11, 2009

here's a video pic that might cheer you up a bit

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Dog Munching On Cat

Peta is just nuts to me, and I've been vegan and plan to do so again, but seriously, the organization is over the top and very negative imo.

The local Craigslist is full of people giving away animals free -- and people are always warning of these animals put in fight situations, but it doesn't deter people. These free animals at risk for all kinds of terrible fates, it does make me sad and underscores Peta's point, there is so much abuse (just look at the grooming forum and how much neglect the groomers have seen) but I still think that people should be allowed to have pets. I also think that we're becoming much more enlightened as a culture -- bird care comes to mind -- etc, etc and with things like anti-tethering laws.

Independent George

· #11 · Apr 11, 2009

This belongs on its own thread, but no dog lover (or, in my opinion, any sane human being) should have anything to do with PETA. Their shelters have a euthanasia rate of over 90% (compared to an average of about 38% for other humane societies), and the organizatio regularly lobbies for breed-specific legislation banning not just pit bulls, but also bulldogs(!).

Euthanasia stats can be found here. Pit Bull advocate Dianne Jessup has a page devoted to PETA as well.

JohnnyBandit

· #12 · Apr 11, 2009

Keechak said:
PETA even thinks things like Agility and Flyball are wrong?

Yes.... I have seen and walked past PETA protests at Conformation, agility and herding events.

I will tell you this because you compete with at least one of your dogs. If you so much as get a sniff or feeling that PETA or any other animal rights group is around at an event you are at. DO NOT let your dog out of your sight for even a second. DO NOT let a stranger give your dog a treat. DO NOT let your dog pick up anything off the ground. DO NOT leave your dog crated and unattended for even a second.

They will poision, turn loose or even steal your dog.

That friendly stranger with treats in their pocket may be another competitor but they also may be an AR freak and be trying to poision your dog.

Be Careful. It has happened.

trentap

Discussion Starter · #13 · Apr 11, 2009

JohnnyBandit said:
Yes.... I have seen and walked past PETA protests at Conformation, agility and herding events.

I will tell you this because you compete with at least one of your dogs. If you so much as get a sniff or feeling that PETA or any other animal rights group is around at an event you are at. DO NOT let your dog out of your sight for even a second. DO NOT let a stranger give your dog a treat. DO NOT let your dog pick up anything off the ground. DO NOT leave your dog crated and unattended for even a second.

They will poision, turn loose or even steal your dog.

That friendly stranger with treats in their pocket may be another competitor but they also may be an AR freak and be trying to poision your dog.

Be Careful. It has happened.

no way they claim to help animals and they would poison one? they make me sick if i ever see one trying to get or poison my dog they better run is all i can say.

JohnnyBandit

· #14 · Apr 11, 2009 (Edited)

trentap said:
no way they claim to help animals and they would poison one? they make me sick if i ever see one trying to get or poison my dog they better run is all i can say.

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Heads up for exhibitors.. ..

Suzie just called from the Franklin, TN 4 day circuit to file this report:
PETA was on the grounds today — mostly taking pictures of dogs in rates (”animal cruelty”) and causing a scene. After lunch an attempted theft of a GSD created a lock down of the building. An announcement was made on the loudspeaker just before groups that the State Troopers were called in and would be helping in “security” for the handlers and their dogs! As of then only one door guarded by law enforcement and watched by club members remains open to come in or go out. Handlers got their friends/assistants to watch their set ups while they were in the ring showing in the groups.

Now Franklin, Tennessee is only about 4 hours from Louisville, and the consensus of opinion was that this was a “dress rehearsal” for the big event.

Anyone planning on taking dogs, bring padlocks for your crates and use the buddy system. Introduce yourself to people set up around you if you are crated in the building, and take turns watching the dogs. Rumors are circulating that this could end up going back to the national level like it did several years ago when handlers started carrying baseball bats! Please think twice before leaving your dogs unattended at any show.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C0DE7DC1E3DEE32A25756C2A9669D946397D6CF

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Keechak

· #15 · Apr 11, 2009

I worry about Hawk being stolen the most for a few reasons. A. He's not neutered B. He's Friendly and C. He's young

I don't worry about Kechara getting stolen as much because if she dosn't know somebody and they try to grab her while I'm not around I wouldn't put it past her to bite them.

But I still will be keeping locks on their kennels from now on.

PS.
Jack is retired and rarly gets out of the house so I'm not worried at all about him getting stolen

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