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I have a buster cube, a treat ball, a rotating star, a bunch of those wooden puzzle toys, I've tried the tennis ball in a muffin tin thing (LOL), stuffed kongs and my dogs figure them all out in a matter of seconds. Even when they're frozen, Colby learned that if she just squeezes the kong and tilts it just right food comes tumbling out. She can empty a completely frozen kong in 9 minutes flat. I've timed it. My dogs do have an off-switch, but I always get disappointed when we get one of these toys and they figure them out almost immediately.

I'm not trying to brag, I'm honestly curious if there are toys out there that are actually challenging??
 

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I'm sure there are some that exist, but probably cost a bit of money. You can try to up the challenge yourself and make things more difficult. Have you tried hiding the food filled toys or stuffing them within other toys, boxes, etc? You can try freezing the entire kong in a giant block of ice so the dog has to try to chip away the block to get to the kong. If you have a backyard, you could build a sand pit and bury their toys in there really deep so they would have to dig it out to get to it. You could try to make your own puzzle toys, there are so many ideas you can come up with :D
 

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If you find one, let me know. I have yet to find a toy that Mia can't open in just a couple minutes. Some of what I do with her, is set up my own games with boxes and things like that. Pretty much anything I can find that I can set up a puzzle, we play with until she chews it up. Then again, she's usually not going to just chew her way through everything either, so it works.
 

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There are some avery challenging Nina Ottosson toys out there.
I have one wooden toy for Mandy where she has to grab the wooden "stoppers" with her teeth to move them, then grab the wooden "thingies" (there are 7) and slide them to the side and at the end lift them up to get to a couple of kibble. If I use it often Mandy gets it much quicker, so I only use it when I know I'm leaving her alone for several hours ... just to make sure it takes a bit of time to figure it out. It'll tire her brain and make her like my leaving that much more. :)
 

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I've tried quite a few too, at best my border collie figures them out and empties them right away, at worst he rips the toy apart. The best we've found is a red kong ball with slits in the side. If I freeze it with peanut butter/applesauce/whatever it lasts longest. He at least can't tear off pieces of the toy. The thing we've had longest actually isn't a toy but some sort of giant cow bone (femur?) that a neighbor gave us. He has chewed it for like 3 years.

This is the ball we have http://www.kongcompany.com/products/for-dogs/rubber-toys/dental-rubber-toys/stuff-a-ball/. It seems to last longer because there isn't a big hole at one end to squeeze the stuff out of.
 

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Try Busy Buddy's squirrel dude. It's like a kong, except that there are small rubber prongs in the opening that face inwards and help hold the food in. Kit, who also empties frozen kongs in minutes, will spend hours with her squirrel. For an extra challenge, stuff with a dried meat type treat, which expands inside the toy when the dog's saliva touches it.
 

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This is the one I have ... it also have three or four "lock" sticks to lock 'thingy' that holds the kibble. It needs both some brains and some brawl when the "lock sticks" are engaged.

 

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Not quite a toy, but how about Treibball ? Usually it's played outside, but you can use small balls or other toys inside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvu-oYFEy_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFpH_WLC4qs

Also, you can teach your dog 1000 words, like Chaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw-GDJi7c_w (18 videos by this guy)
I'd love to to Triebball, but Colby just gets frantic around balls. She'll try to fetch them like she does with my exercise ball. >.< Chaser is so cute!!!!!!! More than anything, I should teach the dogs "put in tub."

Try Busy Buddy's squirrel dude. It's like a kong, except that there are small rubber prongs in the opening that face inwards and help hold the food in. Kit, who also empties frozen kongs in minutes, will spend hours with her squirrel. For an extra challenge, stuff with a dried meat type treat, which expands inside the toy when the dog's saliva touches it.
Ooh, thank you! I will definitely try this!
 

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There are some avery challenging Nina Ottosson toys out there
not for a really smart dog. I paid $40 for a "hard" N.O "dog casino" where they have to remove a lock to open the drawer and get kibble, Gem figered out out in 5 minuts as a 7 month old puppy. her second tiome seeing it I could put a couple kibbles in a few drawers, lock the whole thing and she pulled out all the locks, sniffed through the holes in the top to find which drawers has the treats and pulled open those drawers. my BCs didnt even need to learn it, Happy walked over yanked a lock, opened a drawer, ignored the treats and walked away lol, I was rather disappointed, if I am forking over 40 bucks for a game thats supposed to be challenging, a 7 month old puppy should not be able to figer it out that fast. she LOVES playing it, but challenging it is not lol

try sticking a hunk of apple in a kong, like cut off one side of an apple just before the core, then slice that round in half just barly wide enough to fit through the hole in the kong, the rounded edge makes the apple harder to get out, my dogs have never had any trouble with any sort of kong stuffings frozen or not, while not hugly challenging, it is harder for them to get out then anything else I have tried since the rounded edge means that when the squeeze the kong the apple doesnt fall out(if it does the apple slice isnt big enough lol)
 
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