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In another thread I started, most of the responders said they put the puppy in the crate the first night next to their bed and set alarm to get up a couple of times during the night to walk him -- no gradual intro to the crate like what I'd been reading. So I thought I would try the crate. The puppy came home today, and has peed 6 times in 4 hours (9 weeks old), mostly inside (and immediately after I'd walked him for 15-30 minuts, of course). Now I'm thinking plan 1 makes more sense, which is a large pen with a place to pee to start with (and I'll sleep next to it). I'd planned for getting up 2 or 3 times during the night, but every hours seems extreme. What am I missing about all this? How would you do an entire night in a crate right off the bat when it's less than an hour between each pee?