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Help! Aggressive puppy (Fulton)
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Date: 2009-06-12, 7:18PM EDT


Hi! I Just brought home a new puppy about 4 days ago, she is a pitbull terrier mix and about 10 weeks old. she is vary affectionate and cute as a button but the last few days she has been displaying a little aggression towards my older puppy. they where playing great ,and still are, she is just a little rough. she is growling and biting my other dog hard enough to make her yelp. that is not really the problem though because my older one seems to be putting her in her place and no one is bleeding. my problem is that yesterday she bite my 21 month old daughter in the face over a raw hide bone. i put her in her crate to finish eating it where she would not be bothered, my daughter is fine she gave her a little scratch on her cheek and under her eye but dose not even seem to care she still plays with her. today she was wrestling with my other dog and was starting to growl and get rowdy, my 7 year old tried to break it up and she bite him on his arm, did not draw blood but left little puppy teeth marks. my older dog dose knock her around a bit, she will run across the yard and body slam her sending her rolling across the ground. i have had to crate her a few times for that because i don't want the puppy getting hurt. i was wondering if that had anything to do with this aggression, dose she think she needs to protect herself better and that she dose not no the difference between my kids and my other dog? i don't want my kids getting hurt but dont want to have to keep her crated, any advice anyone has would be greatly appreciated.


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." my problem is that yesterday she bite my 21 month old daughter in the face over a raw hide bone"
Here is a good question where were you at? and why was your 21 month old daughter near the dog when it had a raw hide bone?


" my 7 year old tried to break it up and she bite him on his arm"
again where were you? she was playing with the other dog and was over excited by the sounds of it...she is a puppy!! what happened does not deem her aggressive at all.

"my older dog dose knock her around a bit, she will run across the yard and body slam her sending her rolling across the ground. i have had to crate her a few times for that because i don't want the puppy getting hurt"
that sounds like the older dog is just showing who is boss, not trying to hurt the puppy.

i think it would be in this pups best interest to be rehomed. .


whats bold is my response to the poster...i had someone else respond to what i wrote saying that the pup needs to learn to respect teh children as higher in the pack...but again where was the parent? In my opinion young children should never be left unsupervised with any dog anything could happen! Am i right?
 

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that's the kind of situation that can be potentially fatal and escalate quickly. and that's why pitbulls have a bad name. I have a rule, if any of my dogs show outright aggression to my children, or dare to bit me for no good reason, they get euthanised. human aggression especially to children can escalate so quickly because little people have that weakness about them. touch wood, that hasn't happened so far :)
 

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that's the kind of situation that can be potentially fatal and escalate quickly. and that's why pitbulls have a bad name. I have a rule, if any of my dogs show outright aggression to my children, or dare to bit me for no good reason, they get euthanised. human aggression especially to children can escalate so quickly because little people have that weakness about them. touch wood, that hasn't happened so far :)
thats why i suggest that they rehome this puppy. Its only 10 weeks old. I honestly think that the parent should be supervising the children especially since she's only had this pup for 4days
 

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that's the kind of situation that can be potentially fatal and escalate quickly. and that's why pitbulls have a bad name. I have a rule, if any of my dogs show outright aggression to my children, or dare to bit me for no good reason, they get euthanized. human aggression especially to children can escalate so quickly because little people have that weakness about them. touch wood, that hasn't happened so far :)
Wow! I mean, I agree that I would not have an aggressive dog around children at any time. I also agree with euthanizing a truly dangerous dog if nothing else can be done to help it. Training is an amazing thing.
The dog in question is only 10 weeks old. I feel sorry for this puppy as well. IT is not getting any direction in this home. In fact, by allowing a larger older dog to rough house with it unattended. I feel they are promoting this behavior.
When I think of how many dogs get euthanized just because it is easier then actually training and socializing the dog, it makes me sad.
I am not suggesting that you do that GSDGAL. Your statement just made me think of that.
 

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Wow! I mean, I agree that I would not have an aggressive dog around children at any time. I also agree with euthanizing a truly dangerous dog if nothing else can be done to help it. Training is an amazing thing.
The dog in question is only 10 weeks old. I feel sorry for this puppy as well. IT is not getting any direction in this home. In fact, by allowing a larger older dog to rough house with it unattended. I feel they are promoting this behavior.
When I think of how many dogs get euthanized just because it is easier then actually training and socializing the dog, it makes me sad.
I am not suggesting that you do that GSDGAL. Your statement just made me think of that.
yeah i know what you mean. because of correct training, apart from occasional issues my pack has lead a very calm existence. and if they woudl for some reason attack one of my children or myself, i would not be hasty but examine the situation, but if nothing truly outstanding showed up, i would consult a behaviourist whilst the dog stayed in seclusion from the general populace but i think i would have to put my kids life before my dogs.
 

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I have a rule, if any of my dogs show outright aggression to my children, or dare to bit me for no good reason, they get euthanised.
This seems a little rash. What about training? If a kid hurts a dog it's likely to respond in some unpleasant manner, and I wouldn't say it's the dog's fault. I guess if it works for you thats great but I'm sure glad I'm not one of your dogs...
 

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This seems a little rash. What about training? If a kid hurts a dog it's likely to respond in some unpleasant manner, and I wouldn't say it's the dog's fault. I guess if it works for you thats great but I'm sure glad I'm not one of your dogs...
I said for no good reason, that would be a good reason. all my dogs are trained and obedient, but if for some unknown reason they lashed out at my children for nothing at all, as i said above the dog would be secluded, a trainer called, but at the end of the day, i can't have an unpredictable canine with babies.
 

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I said for no good reason, that would be a good reason. all my dogs are trained and obedient, but if for some unknown reason they lashed out at my children for nothing at all, as i said above the dog would be secluded, a trainer called, but at the end of the day, i can't have an unpredictable canine with babies.
You initially just said "I have a rule, if any of my dogs show outright aggression to my children, or dare to bit me for no good reason, they get euthanised." not that you would call a trainer or behavior specialist. Thats what I responded to, as I had yet to see your other post.
What one person sees as for "no good reason" may very well differ from what someone else may see it as.
 

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well as far as i'm concerned child aggression si a deal breaker (as i ahve said i haven't ever had a dog with it) children are more important then a dog (in my life anyway, i know it's different for everyone) and as Cesar millan is in another country, i have no other option. as rspca will euthanise an aggressive dog as soon as it is surrendered and it's illegal to rehome a dog because of aggressive behaviour in australia
 

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Hardly sounds like out and out aggression at all. Sounds like she needs to learn how to supervise and keep her kids separate. A nearly 2 year old shouldn't be around a dog with a rawhide, and a 7 year old should not try to break up dogs in any manner. Smalls was a high energy puppy and "bit" the crap out of me during play. We taught her bite inhibition and stopped all play if her teeth met skin. If she wants to keep that dog, she needs to get educated and find a good trainer.
 

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If a kid hurts a dog it's likely to respond in some unpleasant manner, and I wouldn't say it's the dog's fault.
Actually, I am basically with GSDGAL. You have to take into account all circumstances, so generatlizations are difficult, but if my dog tried to bite my child then the dog is likely to be toast. He is not allowed to growl at or bite any family member for any reason.

I understand that any dog could bite under exceptional circumstances; I'm talking about normal day to day living. The dog cannot bite the child because he has a bone, she comes near his food, she steps on his foot, whatever. He's a big boy, he can suffer a little, he can walk away. He can't bite. Its a deal breaker.

Obviously with a 10 wk old pup its a training issue, not deal breaker time. But the clock would be ticking.
 

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Hardly sounds like out and out aggression at all. Sounds like she needs to learn how to supervise and keep her kids separate. A nearly 2 year old shouldn't be around a dog with a rawhide, and a 7 year old should not try to break up dogs in any manner. Smalls was a high energy puppy and "bit" the crap out of me during play. We taught her bite inhibition and stopped all play if her teeth met skin. If she wants to keep that dog, she needs to get educated and find a good trainer.
I completely agree with this poster. This is puppy behavior that's being described, not serious aggression! I'm really surprised how many people jumped to euthanasia. Of a ten week old puppy for nipping!
Is it the mention that it's a pit bull?
Obviously the dog just needs training. And supervision. No dog should be left alone with a baby, regardless of breed. I mean, dachshunds have killed babies, among other breeds.
 

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I completely agree with this poster. This is puppy behavior that's being described, not serious aggression! I'm really surprised how many people jumped to euthanasia. Of a ten week old puppy for nipping!
Is it the mention that it's a pit bull?
Obviously the dog just needs training. And supervision. No dog should be left alone with a baby, regardless of breed. I mean, dachshunds have killed babies, among other breeds.
This forum is very pit friendly, so I doubt that's the case.
I think the lady in the craigslist post also did not consider the fact that some breeds are for the experienced dog owner. She doesn't seem horribly worried the dog bit her children, so unless she's willing to commit to strict supervision and training rehoming may be the best option. The puppy is only 10 weeks old and can certainly be trained properly. Or there are child free homes and people willing to train.
I do not have children, nor will I ever, so I can't really say exactly what I would do if my dogs displayed real aggression towards a child. I do have a fear biting Doxie, but he does not live with children or have direct contact with them.
 

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yeah i know what you mean. because of correct training, apart from occasional issues my pack has lead a very calm existence. and if they woudl for some reason attack one of my children or myself, i would not be hasty but examine the situation, but if nothing truly outstanding showed up, i would consult a behaviourist whilst the dog stayed in seclusion from the general populace but i think i would have to put my kids life before my dogs.
I've had to make this choice, it's painful but yes, my childs welfare comes before ANY dog.

However I don't think it would apply in this case. The pup just needs to be taught bite inhibition and the children need to be taught to respect the pups space and food. Proper training needs to take place to prevent resource gaurding as well. Yes, it's possible that IF the pup were rehomed a new place could better meet it's needs.
 
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